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Re: MTU of the Internet?
From: Phil Howard <phil () charon milepost com>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 15:33:42 -0600 (CST)
William Allen Simpson writes:
The real answer for ISPs is to never ship Explorer on your configuration CD, since it is impossible to make well-behaved. Preconfigure Navigator to 2 streams. And even better, set Auto-Load Images Off. There is a nice big Images button to load the images on a page on those rare occasions that you actually want to see them.... You will find that your users will be much happier with their networking experience, and you will have fewer support calls.
I guess we have come full circle and are back to the beginning again, with no solution that works. Limiting Navigator to 2 streams does not work. I know that it does not work because I have used it as such. 4 streams did not work, which was the default. I run mine at 30 and the MTU at 552 and sometimes lower and it works great. Setting auto-load images off is so absurd as to not even justify an answer. I know that a smaller MTU isn't the ultimate answer, but limited streams only makes things worse because each image has to mostly wait until another image has completed. And that requires a longer wait time which makes the user less happy. I've seen this in user complaints about "slow loading" sites. We aren't going to get solutions to this problem by beating it with sticks. Probably what we need to do is lay out what all the requirements are, and then evaluate solutions on the basis of the requirements. Any solutions that meets them all can win. Short of that it becomes difficult to balance all the requirements. But all of this, IMHO, should be a protocol design and/or implementation issue, and not an issue of network operation. So it shouldn't even be on this mailing list. My might well have a concern that problem be resolved, as would be the case with any kind of problem that is seen in operations and comes from design. But we aren't going to solve it here. -- Phil Howard | no9spam1 () anyplace edu stop9960 () anyplace edu suck0it6 () spam1mer edu phil | end7it32 () dumb0ads org stop4120 () no2place edu stop3it1 () anywhere net at | stop7it8 () dumb6ads org a2b8c8d9 () no9place net blow4me5 () spam6mer com milepost | eat0this () dumb2ads edu stop7ads () nowhere4 net die4spam () noplace3 com dot | stop2196 () spammer9 com stop7260 () dumbads5 org no1spam6 () s8p1a5m4 org com | a9b6c6d9 () nowhere7 com eat2this () dumbads5 net stop8ads () no9place edu
Current thread:
- RE: MTU of the Internet?, (continued)
- RE: MTU of the Internet? Joe Provo - Network Architect (Feb 06)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Henry Linneweh (Feb 06)
- RE: MTU of the Internet? Peter Ford (Feb 06)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Paul A Vixie (Feb 06)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Sean M. Doran (Feb 07)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Paul A Vixie (Feb 07)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Sean M. Doran (Feb 08)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Frank Kastenholz (Feb 09)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Frank Kastenholz (Feb 09)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Paul A Vixie (Feb 06)
- RE: MTU of the Internet? Joe Provo - Network Architect (Feb 06)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Phil Howard (Feb 07)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Steven L. Johnson (Feb 09)
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- Re: MTU of the Internet? Jay R. Ashworth (Feb 08)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Sean M. Doran (Feb 08)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? John Hawkinson (Feb 08)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Charles Sprickman (Feb 08)
- Re: MTU of the Internet? Mr. Dana Hudes (Feb 10)