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Re: Generation of traffic in "settled" peering arrangement


From: Patrick Greenwell <patrick () namesecure com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:46:44 -0700 (PDT)

On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, John Curran wrote:

At 03:15 PM 08/24/1998 -0700, Patrick Greenwell wrote:
...
Customers who receive traffic currently bear some of the costs
and the sending customer bears some of the costs.  In the case
of an off-net sender with shortest-exit routing and no offsetting
traffic in the other direction, the receiving customer ends up 
bearing all of the costs.  

Well, my understanding is (and someone correct me if I am wrong) in at
least the case of Exodus, they aren't using closest-exit. I can completely
understand requiring peers not use closest-exit. That seems somewhat
reasonable.

I was not referring to any particular peering relationship, 
only problems brought about by closest-exit peering in the 
presence of highly assymetric traffic.

Well, again correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you can discuss
specific relationships. That's understandable, but the actions of BBN in
this specific case aren't clear to me as it does not fit the profile you
are describing.


I haven't seen anything in these recent discussions to suggest that BBN
would be offering me a discount on inbound traffic since now the sender
would be paying for it.  

In the case of traffic coming coming from a peer network with wildly
asymmetric traffic, the sending network is paying to offset the traffic
assymetry; this returns the economics to that of a balanced peer or
an on-net sender (which is the normal case today).

John, that does not at all address my statement. If the sender is paying
for requested data, is my bill going down? I'm fairly confident the
answer is no. 

So this leaves a situation where the sender will most likely have to
charge me for the requested data as well in order to cover costs, and I
end up paying twice. I am not particularly fond of paying for things
twice. Once is quite enough thanks.

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