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Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI)
From: dlr () bungi com (Dave Rand)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 11:43:28 PDT
[In the message entitled "Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI)" on Aug 22, 11:26, Michael Dillon writes:]
On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, William Allen Simpson wrote:Are you telling me that I should not fill my pipe with duplicate Acks, as that would be "fraud"?No. I'm saying that if you generate spurious traffic with the *INTENT* of creating a revenue stream to you then you are probably committing fraud. If the duplicate acks are created by a program that serves no other useful purpose then it would be just as fraudluent as if you were to set up a 900 number, don a bicycle messenger's outfit, and visit downtown offices asking to use the phone for a momemnt and then calling your 900 number.
Where's the line? If I set up "free dial-in accounts, all you can eat", do I get settlement peering? How about free T1's? Free DS3's? This isn't the right answer. Like it or not, data has value. Bits have value. The size of the packets cannot be the only metric used. -- Dave Rand dlr () bungi com http://www.bungi.com
Current thread:
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Dave Rand (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Michael Dillon (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Karl Denninger (Aug 22)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Dave Rand (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) William Allen Simpson (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Michael Dillon (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Richard Irving (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Michael Dillon (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Dave Rand (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Richard Irving (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Dave Rand (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Owen DeLong (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Michael Dillon (Aug 22)