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Re: BBN/GTEI
From: owen () DeLong SJ CA US (Owen DeLong)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:46:54 -0700
On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Karl Denninger wrote:In fact, what you're advocating is billing the sender for *solicited data* from the recipient's point of view!Not at all. I am advocating paying for transit.On the contrary. If I buy a DS1 for transit from your network, I'm expecting the person I pay to provide transit - ALL OF THE TRANSIT.Of course, and I agree with you 100%. But I was not talking about a transit customer. I was talking about a peer whose traffic interchange is asymmetric and who therefore uses some regional transit in the other guy's network. I'm saying that instead of slamming the door in his face and telling him to buy transit, we need to have a scalable peering option that is a blend.
Ah, but you were talking about traffic from said content provider _TO_ a transit customer, no? The point here is that when I buy a T1 from provider A, I expect him to get my traffic to/from the ENTIRE internet, not the Internet, except those providers that choose not to purchase transit and are not symmetrical in their traffic flows.
Maybe I am headed in the wrong direction with this but I do believe we need a better solution for peering with asymmetric peers that reduces the barriers to entry to $$$. Right now there are barriers to entry that probably will not pass the scrutiny of the DOJ.
That may be. However, the $$$ methods you are talking about are likely to bill the wrong end of the connection. You have repeatedly proposed a solution which allows the customers of transit provider A who purchase transit from transit provider A to write a blank check for provider B to provider A to cover the costs of said transit customer receiving content they request off of servers hosted by provider B. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: BBN/GTEI, (continued)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Dave Rand (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Michael Dillon (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Brian Pape (Aug 25)
- Re: BBN/GTEI M. David Leonard (Aug 25)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Michael Dillon (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Dave Rand (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Dave Rand (Aug 21)
- BBN/GTEI Richard Irving (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Owen DeLong (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Michael Dillon (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Patrick Greenwell (Aug 25)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Austin Schutz (Aug 25)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Michael Dillon (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Owen DeLong (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Karl Denninger (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI William Allen Simpson (Aug 21)
- RE: BBN/GTEI Jamie Scheinblum (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Richard Irving (Aug 21)
- Re: BBN/GTEI Bruce Hahne (Aug 21)
- Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Mike Leber (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Michael Dillon (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Mike Leber (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) John A. Tamplin (Aug 22)
- Re: Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Adrian Chadd (Aug 22)
- Transaction Based Settlements Encourage Waste (was Re: BBN/GTEI) Mike Leber (Aug 22)