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Re: uDNS Root Name Servers Taking Shape - on a couple ISDN lines


From: Marc Hurst <mhurst () fastlane ca>
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 21:22:37 -0400 (EDT)


I have already been labelled a kook.

C'mon DNS people. Please move your discussions elsewhere.....

On Thu, 29 May 1997, Ehud Gavron wrote:

Will the Newdom, Edns, Udns, Ufp, Confederations, Federations,
and morons alike please take it to your respective lists.

NANOG, as has been stated so often even you guys can get it,
is for operations issues.  DNS "as is" is an operations issue.
DNS "as you wish it were" is something for you to discuss till
you're blue in the face.

I'm tired of this drivel, and you keep adding lists and idiots
I can't killfile it fast enough.

Ehud


On Thu, 29 May 1997 18:03:13 -0500, Karl wrote:

;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
root.starfire.douglas.ma.us.      86400   A       208.195.108.8
Multi-homed condition unknown and suspect due to truncated BGP path.

Yup, not multihomed until the new router comes in.  :-(

Approximate bandwidth from the core to this point on the network
from us at this point in time: 34.56kbps, or a good modem line :-)

Gee, it's a T1 from here, must be a problem on your end. <grin>

THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED

Yup, until next week when we get the new box up.

AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

Says you, the grand high holy keeper of the ONE TRUE ROOTS.  Ha!

hp.manhattan.com. 172800  A       199.103.194.137
Aggregated by (and complete path from) Open Advisors.  Appears to be
multi-homed.

Yup.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network: 65.28kbps, or a
                                   single-channel ISDN equivalent.

You really should check your lines Karl, a multihomed server on a
single channel ISDN, I don't think so...

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS RUNNING WITH RECURSION

Hmm... the name.boot file has it set off.  I'll check it out.

AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

<yawn>

DONTSERF.MAKEWAVES.NET.   172800  A       204.94.43.1
Alternic under a different name, operated by Diane Boling, and running
with both nameservers on the same subnet.  Linked to Seanet, which appears
to be multihomed.

Yup.

Approximate bandwidth to this point on the network:  629kbps (my god, they
have one root with a  fractional T1 worth of bandwidth available!)

Well, I guess your lines came back up! <grin>

**** NOTICE:
THIS NAMESERVER IS ALSO RUNNING WITH RECURSION ENABLED

could be.

AND IS NOT A TRUE ROOT.

<yawn>

I rest my case.  Only one of these has anything approaching reasonable
connectivity, all appear to be off single-point failure circuits (except
possibly manhattan.com), and all are running in non-RFC2010 mode.

Yah, we really need RFC2010 servers to run 1/2% of the internet - NOT!

Seriously, our schedule calls for 5 dedicated, non-recursive servers
up by next week this time, with T1 of better connectivity.  We plan
full RFC2010 by the time we reach 5% visibility.   Feel free to market
your system's RFC2010 compliance as an absolute must for servers that
handle a fraction of a percent of the internet's DNS requests, I'd be
surprised if any of the "internet aware" people on these lists you are
posting to care...

Take care,
Ron Kimball for the uDNS council

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