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Re: We've been hit by the spammers, please have mercy


From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk () cybernothing org>
Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:13:09 -0400

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On May 7, "James D. Wilson" <netsurf () pixi com> wrote: 

During the NSF days there were acceptable use policies that governed 
activities that were considered inappropriate to NSF and which could result
in denial of access across their wires.  

Since that seemed to hold up over the years, would it be possible (or legal)
for the NAPs etc. to have similar policies about SPAM which could result in
traffic from non-compliant sites not being routed?  

        Personally, I'd rather not see the NAP operators take this much
        of an active stance on anything.  They're the closest thing the
        Internet is ever gonna have to a "common carrier" that actually
        /does/ carry anybody's traffic.  Next, they'd find themselves
        called in to resolve peering disputes, and it'd be a big mess.

        But if more sites -- especially larger ones -- were to drop
        peering with companies that blatantly ignore reports of abuse and
        attacks from within their networks, that would have a very similar
        impact.

        This has happened in the past from time to time, when incorrect
        routes were being mistaknely propogated, or to help stop
        syn-flooding and similar denial of service attacks.

        I've been wondering for quite a while why AGIS is unwilling to
        realize that mail server hijacking /is/ a denial of service
        attack to most providers, and deal with it accordingly.

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