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Re: the original thirteen NSFNET regionals


From: Erik Sherk <sherk () uu net>
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:04:34 -0400

From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <map () iphil net>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:16:01 +0800 (HKT)
Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu

Rob Gutierrez wrote:
Does NSI (NASA Science Internet) qualify as one of those?  Yeah, it was
1989 when it started (Hi Milo!), but ... :)

Not really. Both NSI and ESnet backbones pre-date the NSF regionals
and received no NSF funding, being funded by NASA and the Department
of Energy, respectively. These were established as national backbones,
independent of the NSFnet though both did peer with the NSFnet at
FIX-East (at UMD and later at SURAnet) and FIX-West (at
NASA-Ames). Milo was largely responsible for the FIX design which was
the pre-cursor in many ways to the current MAE design and both
locations were connected to the MAEs.

It might be noted that both NASA and ESnet were originally primarily
DECnet networks as they pre-date IP development by a little bit. They
also, in there early forms (SPAN, HEPnet, and MFEnet) predate the
NSFnet.

FIX-West is still in business while FIX-East is being dismantled as I
type as BBN Planet is moving out of the old SURAnet facility.



Yea, I was in the old NOC on friday and wrote a large


       ^^^^^
   ^^^^     ^^^^
   |  SURAnet  |
   |  '86-'95  |
   |    RIP    |
   |           |
   -------------

Of course, I had to cross out the 'RIP' and write 'ISIS' :-)


Erik


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