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Re: Terminating many T1's
From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil () domino org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:09:37 +0100
On Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Brian Horvitz <horvitz () websecure net> wrote:
Actually, up in Boston, MFS derives all their pricing by taking the Nynex end-to-end price and subtracting a certain percentage (at least 10%). I may be mistaken but, I think they still do this even with the DS3 Hub. You still pay two chan terms. A Nynex chan term is about $200 so this ends up being quite an expense. The overall savings still makes it worth while if you are going to sell a lot of T1s - if only for the headache, you only need two aspirin at the end of the day instead of four.
The solution to this is for someone to make a Channelised SONET/SDH interface. [I know more on SDH so I'll talk about that] SDH is a multiplexing technolodgy and with SDH I could have one pair of fibres from an SDH MUX to my Ascend/Cisco/BAY box that had upto 60 E1 [2048 lines] on it using a virtual container. VC-12 for 2048K and VC-11 for 1544K [T1]. With this one could have around 100 T1's. The Telco could do the routeing via Cross-connect and even deliver this service using SDH, one would could also have this on looped SDH and 99% of the fiber breaks that we see currently would simply go away. You could also pull these circuits into standard E1/T1 muxes and make 30 64K channels on an E1. The other great thing about this is that SDH and SONET are really easy to manage. SDH and SONET are multiplexing technolodgies and I wish the router manufacturers would wake up and grab this idea. I'm currently using ATM->FR mapping to do this with the Ascend GRF which works reasonably well, apart from ATM ofcourse :-). We're putting lots of pressure on our suppliers to make the above happen. Ascend have a SONET card [with protection] for the GRF so things are going in the right direction. Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae. Alive and Kicking. Domino: In the glow of the night. neil () DOMINO ORG NetBSD/sparc: 100% SpF (Solaris protection Factor) Free the daemon in your <A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!</A>
Current thread:
- Terminating many T1's Stephen Balbach (Jul 22)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Ben Kirkpatrick, ELI (Jul 22)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Nathan Stratton (Jul 22)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Brian Horvitz (Jul 22)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Neil J. McRae (Jul 23)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Sean M. Doran (Jul 23)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Neil J. McRae (Jul 25)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Nathan Stratton (Jul 22)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Ben Kirkpatrick, ELI (Jul 22)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Tom Eastgard (Jul 23)
- Re: Terminating many T1's Dave Bergum (Jul 23)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Terminating many T1's Tim Roberts (Jul 23)