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Re: Fwd: #127669/2 (1site) appl:A site in Germany reports routing proble...
From: "Timothy M. Lyons" <tlyons () rocketmail com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 07:27:12 -0700 (PDT)
---John Hawkinson <jhawk () bbnplanet com> wrote:
[note I cc'd nanog () bbnplanet com not nanog () merit edu] This was NOT appropriate.
I left Planet 2 months ago so please don't tell me what is appropriate.
THe thread should never have happened on NANOG. The conclusion within the ticket is INACCURATE AND WRONG.
Where would you suggest I post a reply to a NANOG question.... Also, if you folks can't properly diagnose an issue on your own network, that's not my problem.
You should probably not quote confidential work tickets from a
non-BBN
email address.
The updates were sent to me as I forwarded the original complaint to ops () bbnplanet com so there is no confidentiality issue.
Worst of all, your lines exceeded 80 columns. Please get in line.
.....awww why even bother...It's nice to see Planet has nothing better to do than complain about message formatting though - must be nice. I just don't have the time to reformat every message that I forward, or even worry about it to be honest. In the interest of fairness, my next post will be the closing resolution for this ticket as Planet sees it. --Tim
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 15:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Timothy M. Lyons" <tlyons () rocketmail com> Reply-To: tlyons () techie com Subject: Fwd: #127669/2 (1site) appl:A site in Germany reports
routing proble...
To: nanog () merit edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-nanog () merit edu ---Internet Operations Center <ops () bbnplanet com> wrote:Ticket Number: 127669 Ticket Status: open Ticket Type: unplanned/e2e Scope/Source:
1site/email
Ticket Owner: na/na Ticket Opener: pbrown Ticket Opened: 07-15-1997 14:32 GMT Problem Started: 07-15-199714:32 GMTSvc/Site ID #: 178044 Svc/Site Name: appl Original Description: A site in Germany reports routing problems resulting indifficultiesreaching www.apple.com. Coming from either 194.97.200.30 or 195.254.23.1 and going to www.apple.com traces seem to be delayed around paloalto.
Winfried
Haug fromthe source reports their AS is 5549 and the first Net is
announces
as a /16from their former upstream, they have 194.97.192.0/18. Thesecond blockhas no super-route, but is splitted between themselves and
another
ISP, theyhave 195.254.0.0/17. Traces attached. ***Note #2 07-15-1997 15:30:58 GMT Author: tpruneau Appears to be a problem in UUNet Winfried The hop where your trace showed a jump in time is a link
between
UUNet and BBN> > 13 C128.bbnplanet.net (137.39.250.14) 244.497 ms
205.937 ms
> 184.169 ms > > 14 * * * > > 15 * paloalto-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.10) 2755.807 ms * 137.39.250.14 is actually on the UUNet router (bbn has no
control
over thatrouter) I checked the stats for the link between those two routers forthe last 24hours and it is fine pkt/ bytes kbits util %
dropsdiscards errors sec /pkt /sec avg max 95th
%
95th% 95th % 95th rcvd: 3005.3 366.6 8814.9 5.69 13.68 7.47 0.000.00 0.000.00 0.00 0.00 sent: 1583.7 380.9 4826.3 3.11 13.93 4.93 0.000.00 0.000.00 0.00 0.00 I did a ping test accross that link and it is also fine paloalto-br2/su-b#pingTarget IP address: 4.0.1.37 Repeat count [5]: 1000 Datagram size [100]: 1500 Sending 1000, 1500-byte ICMP Echoes to 4.0.1.37, timeout is 2seconds:
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Success rate is 100 percent (1000/1000), round-trip
min/avg/max =
1/2/112 msTracing back to you appears to show loss at the london link paloalto-br2/su-b#trace 194.97.200.22 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to Pfullingen2.seicom.net (194.97.200.22) 1 paloalto-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.37) 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec 2 paix.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.58) 904 msec 116 msec 16 msec 3 br1.pao1.alter.net (198.32.176.2) 12 msec 44 msec 40 msec 4 431.atm10-0.cr1.pao1.alter.net (137.39.13.142) [AS 701] 36msec 40 msec56 msec >>>> 5 * * 197.Hssi4-0.BR1.LND1.Alter.Net (137.39.71.138) [AS 701]
2576
msec6 Fddi5-0.CR2.LND1.Alter.Net (146.188.30.226) [AS 702] 2580
msec
2564 msec2588 msec 7 * 367.Hssi5-0.CR2.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.3.85) [AS 702] 2644msec 2616 msec8 Fddi0-0.GW1.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.31.227) [AS 702] 2712
msec
2648 msec2624 msec 9 * TopNet-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (146.188.128.22) [AS 702] 2676msec *10 frankfurt.topnet.de (194.97.110.186) [AS 5539] 2724 msec *2656 msec11 * Frankfurt.seicom.NET (194.97.192.41) [AS 5549] 2688 msec
2720
msec12 * * Frankfurt.seicom.NET (194.97.193.6) [AS 5549] 2660 msec 13 Stuttgart.seicom.NET (194.97.193.9) [AS 5549] 2724 msec
2660
msec 2864msec 14 Pfullingen.seicom.NET (194.97.192.249) [AS 5549] 2744 msec2736 msec2684 msec I recomend you take this up with your ISP and have them persue
the
issuewith UUNet
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