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Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors?
From: Ronald Barron Yokubaitis <rony () texas net>
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:58:47 -0600 (CST)
On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Paul Ferguson writes:At 05:33 PM 1/15/97 -0800, Vadim Antonov wrote:The technology we're playing with lost it virginity years ago, and it is our duty to remember than it can be an immensely powerful tool in politics and military. We're not in a sandbox anymore.Not everything is a freeking conspiracy either.Vadim is making a reasonable point. Supplying technology to some countries is not a neutral act. Businesspeople must take this into account when doing business with such people.
MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm...........Do the same considerations apply to BUYING from the PRC? We were working in our NOC last night unpacking and installing a Cisco 7513 and a Catalyst 5000 switch and one of them had cooling fans that were clearly marked "Made in China" ie. made in the PRC. Why is SELLING to the PRC by Bay any more morally difficult than BUYING from the PRC by Cisco? Bay sells to the PRC; Cisco buys from the PRC. Has any University stood on principle and refused to buy from Cisco? Bay? On this basis? University SysAdmins can read the component labels as well as Private Sector SysAdmins. But then The North American Universities' hands aren't very clean after their own supression of Student Speech during the Pograms of 80's in their own futile attempt at "Cultural Revolution" AKA "Political Correctness?" I am thankful the University didn't have tanks. Sell/Buy PRC ?? mox nix, tanto faz...... Ronald Barron Yokubaitis A Internet Access for the Texas NetWorking Inc. B REPUBLIC OF TEXAS and San Antonio (210) 272-8111 5 neighboring countries Austin (512) 472-2532 L Boerne (210) 249-7058 Houston (713) 222-2260 J Georgetown (512) 869-5947 _.. . ._ _... ..... ._.. ._ _ _ ._ _... ..... ._.. ._ _ _ _._ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors?, (continued)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Vadim Antonov (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Owen DeLong (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Paul Ferguson (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Vadim Antonov (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Tony Li (Jan 15)
- HEY GUYS! (Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? ) Paul A Vixie (Jan 15)
- HEY GUYS! (Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? ) Michael Shields (Jan 16)
- Re: HEY GUYS! (Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? ) Allan Chong (Jan 19)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Paul Ferguson (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Perry E. Metzger (Jan 16)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Ronald Barron Yokubaitis (Jan 18)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Perry E. Metzger (Jan 16)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Vadim Antonov (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Jon Green (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Vadim Antonov (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Tony Li (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? William Allen Simpson (Jan 15)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Vadim Antonov (Jan 18)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Ehud Gavron (Jan 18)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? root (Jan 18)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Gordon Frank (Jan 20)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Ehud Gavron (Jan 18)
- Re: [NANOG] Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Jeffrey C. Ollie (Jan 18)
- Re: Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? Vadim Antonov (Jan 15)