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RE: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch?
From: nanog mail reader <nanog () amplify zoom org>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:38:13 -0400 (EDT)
grf == pipe dream. Alex On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Chris MacFarlane wrote:
Well they are out as we (ACC) have deployed them and the have worked well so far. We have had a couple of bug to date and Ascend has addressed them quickly. As for them being new they have been around for two years but I do agree that they need some polishing on the router management side. Rgds cjm -----Original Message----- From: Brian Horvitz [SMTP:horvitz () mediaone net] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 1997 1:06 AM To: Lane Patterson; Christofer Hoff Cc: nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Why, you know where to get one? And even if they were out, I'm not sure I'm want to deploy anything in a 60 node network pushing that much data which was so new. BrianTalk to Nathan Stratton at Netrail. He's our collective test case :-) Aren't you looking at Cisco's BFR too? -Lane On Fri, 22 Aug 1997, Christofer Hoff wrote:-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We are in the development phase of engineering the deployment of approximately 60 POPs throughout the US. Our 'standard' configuration is normally based upon cisco equipment and more often than not consists of a 7513 connected to a Catalyst 5000/5500 via FDDI with the various internal LAN segments switched from there via FD 100BaseTX. We've begun to explore the viability of deploying the GRF for several reasons, not the least of which is cost and performance. Given (and taken with a grain of salt) the apparent performance differential between the cisco 7513 and the Ascend GRF (the GRF outperforms the 7513 substantially in our tests,) my concerns are more operations-related. The GRF DOES support the 'full' implementation (including extensions) of BGP4 and the other 'vanilla' TCP services that you'd come to expect from a router (er, layer 3 switch?) of this caliber. Since it's NOT a cisco, we'd have to deviate and not utilize EIGRP as our IGP of choice, and deploy OSPF which poses its own set of issues. SO, the bottom line...has anyone else deployed multiple GRF400's with success. Ascend will tell you that UUNET has deployed (or is going to) a hundred or so. I want to talk to people USING the technology, not thinking about it. Your comments and opinions are welcomed. TIA, Christofer Hoff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBM/3KcnRoVZYHVpX1EQKKwgCgsnu30mTvCXZRyH68TOWeq3z0uZkAnj0F Kmgl0te7Wq6AzsQ1/0GjMV5N =d5NC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ,,, (o-o) ------.oOO--(_)--OOo.--------------------------------- Christofer L. Hoff \ No true genius is Chief Nerd, \ possible without a NodeWarrior Networks, Inc \ little intelligent \ madness! hoff () nodewarrior net \ http://www.nodewarrior.net \ -Peter Uberoth "Nuthin' but Net!" \ ------------------------------------------------------ 310.568.1700 vox - 310.568.4766 fax
Current thread:
- Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Christofer Hoff (Aug 22)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Lane Patterson (Aug 22)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Joe Shaw (Aug 24)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Nathan Stratton (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Justin W. Newton (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Neil J. McRae (Aug 26)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Brian Horvitz (Aug 22)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Nathan Stratton (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Gary Zimmerman (Aug 25)
- RE: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Chris MacFarlane (Aug 25)
- RE: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? nanog mail reader (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Mike Gaddis (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? David Mercer (Aug 25)
- RE: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? nanog mail reader (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Lane Patterson (Aug 22)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? joseph j. kim (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Christofer Hoff (Aug 25)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Joe Shaw (Aug 26)
- perf #s for GRF vs 7500 Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? joseph j. kim (Aug 26)
- Re: perf #s for GRF vs 7500 Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Craig A. Huegen (Aug 26)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Neil J. McRae (Aug 26)
- Re: Anyone Deployed Ascend's GRF IP Switch? Nathan Stratton (Aug 26)