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Re: BigISP<-->SmallISP peerings


From: Robert Laughlin <robert () portal dx net>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:21:12 -0400 (EDT)

I am trying to feel sorry for the poor burdened Large ISP.....:)

If it was just a matter of money, I would expect the large ISPs could add 
to their revenue streams by offering peering at a price to those networks 
they would otherwise not peer with.  We have all heard that they are 
deluged by requests, right? Maybe there are not enoungh networks 
interested in such a service to make it worthwhile.   Wait a 
minute here, I thought they were overwelmed by requests....

Personally I question this idea of being deluged, after all there are only
a small number of networks at MAE-East which I believe has more IPs than
any other connection point. And the big guys *are* peered with many of 
the networks connected there, so there are only a dozen or so left to 
peer with.  Maybe there is some kind of new math working here.

And BTW, I have not found a single large ISP willing to sell bi-lateral 
peering to me and I *have* asked for price quotes on this.

Best Regards,
Robert Laughlin

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On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Vadim Antonov wrote:

Zachary DeAquila <zachary () zachs place org> wrote:

Hrm.  Does it matter if the small ISP already has transit with someone else?
In such a case, peering does nothing but shorten the path from SmallISP to
BigISP in order to no longer make it go through SmallISPs transit provider.

Yes, but then from the point of view of large ISP the peering is of zero
value.  You see, it has to deliver packets to IXP anyway.  OTOH, the
load on routers, bloated configurations and engineering resources to
support the additional peering are quite real.

--vadim

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