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Re: Ungodly packet loss rates
From: Edward Vielmetti <emv () nsb fv com>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:36:48 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 jbash () velvet com wrote:
A situation where I have to "shop around" for connectivity depending on what site I want to talk to that day is just plain unacceptable.
If you're like most people working off site, there are a few hosts that you need to keep long TCP sessions open to, and the rest of the net that gets random traffic.
It doesn't look to me as though the loss is being introduced at the NAPS. If you look at the trace, you'll see that significant loss starts to appear within Alternet, well after MAE-west.
Traceroute is less useful a tool than you think in the face of congestive loss. Routers can and do selectively prioritize the queueing packets based on their type, and if I were a network operator I would have no hesitation about dropping traceroute or ping packets to low priority.
If I did interactive work under these conditions on a regular basis, I'd have gone insane long ago.
No, you would have changed ISPs a long time ago, instead of whining to NANOG that the entire world is providing sub-standard service. Ed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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- Ungodly packet loss rates jbash (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Robert Bowman (Oct 21)
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- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Derek Elder (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Edward Vielmetti (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Dalvenjah FoxFire (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates jbash (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Edward Vielmetti (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Bill Bradford (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates John Hawkinson (Oct 21)
- RE: Ungodly packet loss rates Chris A. Icide (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Jon Zeeff (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Michael Dillon (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Jon Zeeff (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Alan Hannan (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates bmanning (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Jon Zeeff (Oct 21)
- Re: Ungodly packet loss rates Robert Bowman (Oct 21)