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Re: the Internet Backbone
From: Curtis Villamizar <curtis () ans net>
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 23:49:16 -0400
Some nits. In message <v01520d0bad8c60bc8902@[168.143.1.215]>, Howard C. Berkowitz writes:
Here are my first thoughts on a tiered model, with attributes of each tier. Top level (Tier 1): -- provide transit as their principal business
principal IP business (some people provide voice services or do other things).
-- have at least some default-free routers
Span at least one continent with default-free routers. Are able to provide customers with default free routing as an option.
-- have connectivity at >1 geographically separated major exchange
Yes. And span these with default free routers (ie: taking full routing at two routers and defaulting in the middle doesn't count).
-- need special measures to deal with BGP scaling issues inside their AS (or multiple AS) such as confederations, clusters, etc.
or multiple AS to deal with scaling... but if a really hefty router comes along or we ever are able inject AS paths into the IGP, this no longer applies. How about connection speed? At least a DS3 backbone? A redundant backbone (no single circuit failure can partition the provider)? Can we squeeze in 1.5: -- provide transit as their principal business -- have at least some default-free routers -- have connectivity at >1 geographically separated major exchange -- do not have a default free backbone -- maybe cannot provide full routing to all but a few customers -- maybe not redundant DS3s Nobody in particular in mind here.
2nd Level -- provide transit within a geographic area -- may have default-free routers -- limit operations to a geographic area; may connect to multiple exchanges within that area
Connection speed? Is Nearnet (mostly New England) circa 1994 equivalent to some small provider with two T1s and a bunch of routers in a limited geographic region? Again, having an providing full routing is a big factor too.
3rd Level -- do not provide commercial transit services, although they may incidentally provide transit among their customers -- do not do BGP peering with any "downstream" organizations. Their user base is part of their AS. -- May peer with multiple upstream providers 4th Level -- do not run BGP -- Internet access through provider only
Current thread:
- Re: the Internet Backbone, (continued)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Michael Dillon (Apr 06)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Howard C. Berkowitz (Apr 06)
- Re: the Internet Backbone bmanning (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Avi Freedman (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone David ``Joel Katz'' Schwartz (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone bmanning (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Avi Freedman (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Jun John Wu (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Alan Hannan (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Nathan Stratton (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone bmanning (Apr 08)
- Re: the Internet Backbone Curtis Villamizar (Apr 08)
- RE: the Internet Backbone Michael Dillon (Apr 06)
- RE: the Internet Backbone Per Gregers Bilse (Apr 06)
- RE: the Internet Backbone Marc E. Hidalgo (Apr 08)
- RE: the Internet Backbone Clayton O'Neill (Apr 06)