ORBZ (finally) shut down.

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Forwarded from: Jay D. Dyson <jdyson () treachery net>

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Thank (insert deity here...atheists leave blank)!

ORBZ was run in the worst and sloppiest manner conceivable.  They'd scan
every damned mail server they could, over and over again, even though
there was absolutely *no* evidence that the system was ever an open relay. 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.  Their real abuses were far worse than the
claimed abuses of the original ORBS service (run by Alan Brown). 

Those who know my strong anti-spam stance will appreciate my utterly low
regard for the (now thankfully defunct) ORBZ.

- -Jay


- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 01:25:25 -0600
From: David Ulevitch <davidu () everydns net>
To: incidents () securityfocus com
Subject: ORBZ shut down

Hello incidents,

  I'm sending this forward to incidents for two reasons.

  1) The reason ORBZ appears to have been shut down is because of the
  problem with Lotus Domino servers crashing/hanging when receiving
  bounces with null envelope senders.(check archives for exact issue)

  2) A lot of mail servers will HANG or be EXTREMELY slow if they are
  setup to check against ORBZ name service for spamboxes.

  A good solution is to switch to using something like ORDB
  (www.ordb.org)

- ----- Forwarded message from ORBZ <admin () orbz org> -----

Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 03:15:49 +0000
From: ORBZ <admin () orbz org>
To: list () orbz org
Subject: Shutdown

Here's the email that those of you with forward sight
have been fearing since the inception of ORBZ.

As of this moment, ORBZ is shutting down.  DNS zones
are going to stop resolving, the website will disappear
and mail will stop working (so furthur discussion on
this list probably won't work -- use NANAE).

I don't want to disappear in silence like ORBS, so I'll
try for as much description as possible without
compromising my own position.

I received an official court notice this afternoon to
turn over all information relation to ORBZ accounts.
This came from the 10th Judicial District court of the
State of Michigan.  It appears that ORBZ may be facing
criminal charges for denial of service relating to the
Lotus Domino issue.

I was happy to try to weather any civil issues that may
have come up, and I was committed to seeing it through.
However, the threat of jail time is too much; I don't
believe in this fight quite that much.

Thank you all for all your support.  I sincerely hope
that someone with the goal of carrying on the mission
of ORBZ pops up in another country with a less
foreboding legal system.  Anyone who has copies of the
current zones may do with them what they wish.

For those of you stuck without good spam filtering,
please consider ORDB and SpamCop; they both provide
excellent free solutions.

Ian Gulliver
ORBZ

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