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Re: New internet legislation outlaws all hacking


From: InfoSec News <isn () c4i org>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 02:22:23 -0500 (CDT)

Forwarded from: Dave Dittrich <dittrich () cac washington edu>

It is generally agreed that it is almost impossible to quantify the
extent of damage of internet-related crime.

"I don't think anyone has numbers on how much is lost. Most
cybercrime goes unreported because of PR considerations," said
Nemes. "It could be a very high figure, taking into account how
online banks and brokerages can be seriously disrupted by denial of
service."

This is pure crap.

Not knowing that something exists is NOT the same it not existing at
all, and I doubt this writer did a good enough job of surveying the
entire security field to be able to takes Nemes' claim as anything
other than uninformed opinion.

It IS possible to quantify damage, and many people know how to do it.
I've done it successfully for criminal cases, and so have many others.

For a publicly available model, see the ICAMP project report, and the
Honeynet Project Forensic Challenge results, which used (and
reference) the ICAMP model:

        http://project.honeynet.org/challenge/results/

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