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Re Hearing in Boston on conscription of cyber/IT and STEM workers


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 08:43:45 -0400




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From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org>
Date: May 8, 2018 at 8:03:27 AM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Hearing in Boston on conscription of cyber/IT and STEM workers


I am coPI for UMBC's SFS program.  We have produced some excellent talent for the federal workforce, just like our 
colleague programs at other schools.  SFS is a wonderful opportunity for students, and their interest in SFS remains 
quite high and I think some students see it as something akin to a ROTC Scholarship, just for civilians and in a 
specialized field (plus SFS doesn't require push-ups, PT tests, or uniforms).   ;)

In terms of funding, due to Congressional budget idiocy over the past year, few if any were getting NSF SFS awards 
for several months. We were told at the PI meeting in January that funding for new and renewal awards was *totally* 
dependent on whatever Congress did with the budget ... but yes, they did announce several new awards during this 
otherwise 'frozen' funding period based on their available funding levels.  We expect to hear about more awards to 
various schools in the near future now that the budget issue has been, at least for the moment, resolved.

In terms of IASP, I believe IASP is undergoing some changes (new name, at the least) but don't have any firm details, 
so I can't comment on it...but if it is zero'd out in terms of funding maybe given NSA's reorg the longer-term goal 
is to let SFS become 'the' preferred federal cybersecurity scholarship funding vehicle?  And BTW, we had an IASP 
recipient at UMBC in 2017, who declined and took the SFS award instead -- and we've had a few others in recent years, 
too.  (SFS and IASP are pretty equal in what they offer and/or require of students)

-- rick

On May 7, 2018, at 3:59 PM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:




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From: Jeremy Epstein <jeremy.j.epstein () gmail com>
Date: May 7, 2018 at 3:51:53 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re Hearing in Boston on conscription of cyber/IT and STEM workers

Dave, for IP, please.

I'd like to clarify and correct some of what Jean Camp wrote about the SFS program.  As an NSF employee I can't 
comment on whether the funding level provided by Congress is adequate, but I'd like to assure readers that there 
are new SFS grants occurring. 

As of March 2018, there were 70 active SFS institutions with 715 active students receiving scholarship funding 
consisting of full tuition; $9K for professional development, books, health care; and $22.5K (UG) or 34K (GRAD) 
cash stipend per academic year.  Each university supports approximately 5-10 students per year.  So saying there 
were "ZERO new scholarships last year" is incorrect - there were both new institutions and new students.

SFS Scholarships Awards in FY2017 went to (those not marked "new" are renewals):

University of Florida (new)
Florida International University (new)
University of Tennessee Chattanooga (new)
Tuskegee University (new)
University of Alabama at Birmingham (new)
University of Hawaii (new)
Georgetown University (new)
North Carolina A&T
Towson University
Northeastern University
Arizona State University
Auburn University
Pennsylvania State University

New awards in FY2018 went to:

University of Maryland College Park (new)
Texas A&M University Main Campus (new)
Purdue University Northwest (new)
Louisiana Tech University (new)
Plus several more institutions whose awards are being processed.

Readers may also be interested in the Dec 2017 press release at 
https://nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=243987&org=NSF&from=news

More information about the SFS program can be found at https://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=504991 and 
a list of all SFS grants can be found at 
https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/advancedSearchResult?ProgEleCode=1668&BooleanElement=Any&BooleanRef=Any&ActiveAwards=true&#results

I'm happy to provide more information about SFS to anyone who's interested.

--Jeremy

On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



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From: L Jean Camp <ljeanc () gmail com>
Date: May 7, 2018 at 9:51:10 AM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Hearing in Boston on conscription of cyber/IT and STEM workers
Reply-To: ljeanc () gmail com

This would be a great way to reduce American students in STEM program even more.

In fact, this is not just stupid. This is shameful.

The NSF Scholarship for Service requires a year of public service for each year of scholarship. They funded ZERO 
new scholarships last year,   The years the SFS scholarship is funded the highly rated and worthy of funding 
proposals are usually funded at 25% -30%.   These funds go directly to the students, who then have to find 
internships in the public sector, and then work in the public sector for one year for each year of scholarship. 

The NSA Information Assurance scholarship program stopped accepting new students in I think 2008.  This is for 
American students who have a 3.5 or better in a nationally certified computer security degree program.  These 
students must be willing to go through a clearance process, spend internships in intelligence or military,  and 
work one year in intelligence or military for each year supported by the scholarship. 

Americans are desperate for support to enter security careers. The DoD spends more on pencils than security 
scholarships.  The funds to fully support every qualified students in these programs would be minuscule budget 
dust for the Department of Defense.  It would probably not even require a few more sedans and fewer luxury SUVs in 
the motor pool. It would be so small as to be a tiny footnote in the NDAA.   These would support the 
infrastructure, help Americans, and are an all round social good.

To place more demands on a generation that is staggering under student debt, will have to pay off the lavish tax 
cuts we have voted ourselves since Reagan, and pay for this wars while simultaneously refusing to invest a dime in 
scholarships is simply shameful.

To be factually crystal clear, the proposal here is to continue to refuse to support scholarships and then 
conscripting people who had to work their way through because there is no DoD priority more disposable than 
cybersecurity scholarships, as you can see by the zero budget for IAS in the NDAA.





On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



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From: "Edward Hasbrouck" <edward () hasbrouck org>
Date: May 7, 2018 at 8:45:07 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Hearing in Boston on conscription of cyber/IT and STEM workers

A "National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service" is 
currently holding hearings throughout the US on the future of the draft, 
draft registration, Selective Service, and compulsory service.

The Commission has been directed to report and make recommendations to 
Congress and the President on, among other issues, "the feasibility... of 
modifying the military selective service process in order to obtain for 
military, national, and public service individuals with skills (such as 
medical, dental, and nursing skills, language skills, cyber skills, and 
science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) skills) for which 
the Nation has a critical need, without regard to age or sex."

The Commission's next hearing is this Wednesday, May 9th, at Suffolk 
University in Boston. It isn't necessary to sign up in advance to testify. 

Background on the National Commission and these hearings:

https://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/002321.html

Official commission notice of the hearing in Boston:

http://inspire2serve.gov/news-events/please-join-us-our-public-forum-boston-massachusetts

Other upcoming Commission hearings::

http://inspire2serve.gov/news-events

Most of the Commission's official publicity has been about promoting 
volunteerism, so people who haven't read closely might not have realized 
that their mandate is to study compulsory military and national service.

Peace,

Edward Hasbrouck



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