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Re Rr Axios: WH considers nationalizing 5G network
From: "Dave Farber" <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 16:44:02 +0000
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Joseph Pistritto <jcp () pistritto org> Date: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [IP] Re Rr Axios: WH considers nationalizing 5G network To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, <brett () lariat net> There seems to be no evidence that the government can keep data it already controls secure, why do we think they could secure a project as large as a 5G network? On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net> Date: Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [IP] Rr Axios: WH considers nationalizing 5G network To: <dave () farber net> Dave: Exactly the same false arguments have been made for nationalizing the Internet - as they have, for years, by lobbyist Susan Crawford. My one sentence response (and the one, I am sure, of most of my colleagues): You will nationalize my network - which I created with my own sweat, blood, and treasure - when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. --Brett Glass At 06:04 PM 1/28/2018, you wrote: ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Geoff Kuenning <geoff () cs hmc edu> Date: Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Axios: WH considers nationalizing 5G network To: <dave () farber net> How ironically coincidental that in today's Doonesbury comic strip, a White House official asks Honey Yuan how China is being so successful in building infrastructure. "Have you tried setting up an autocracy?" she asks. The response: "Actually, yes."---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Richard Forno <rforno () infowarrior org > Date: Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 6:13 PM Subject: Axios: WH considers nationalizing 5G network To: Infowarrior List < infowarrior () attrition org> CC: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Scoop: Trump team considers nationalizing 5G networkhttps://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.htmlTrump national security officials are considering an unprecedentedfederaltakeover of a portion of the nation’s mobile network to guard against China, according to sensitive documents obtained by Axios. Why it matters: We’ve got our hands on a PowerPoint deck and a memo bothproduced by a senior National Security Council official which were presented recently to senior officials at other agencies in the Trump administration. The main points: The documents say America needs a centralized nationwide 5G network within three years. There'll be a fierce debate inside theTrumpadministration and an outcry from the industry over the next 6-8monthsover how such a network is built and paid for. Two options laid out by the documents: • The U.S. government pays for and builds the single network which would be an unprecedented nationalization of a historically private infrastructure. • An alternative plan where wireless providers build their own 5G networks that compete with one another though the document says the downside is it could take longer and cost more. It argues that one of the “pros” of that plan is that it would cause “less commercial disruption”tothe wireless industry than the government building a network. Between the lines: A source familiar with the documents' drafting says Option 2 is really no option at all: a single centralized network iswhat'srequired to protect America against China and other bad actors. < - >https://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.htmlhttp://www.listbox.com -- Geoff Kuenning geoff () cs hmc edu http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~geoff/ If at first you succeed, try to hide your astonishment. -- Harry F. Banks Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/125300-2f92aa2e>| Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now <https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20180128200421:54CA964E-0490-11E8-AC0A-9D5BEE03D8B9> <http://www.listbox.com> Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/125382-3c99838e> | Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&> Your Subscription | Unsubscribe Now <https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20180129104113:D4023C3A-050A-11E8-8A70-C1A1F96CB642> <http://www.listbox.com>
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