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Re Hey, Alexa, What Can You Hear? And What Will You Do With It?


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 02:39:17 -0400




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From: Chuck McManis <chuck.mcmanis () gmail com>
Date: April 5, 2018 at 11:42:58 AM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Hey, Alexa, What Can You Hear? And What Will You Do With It?

Regarding what can they hear and how can companies use it ...

I know from working at Google that at least back in 2008 some of the advertising folks were trying to figure out if 
they put a microphone in a store and pick up the same voice print of someone who had asked for directions to that 
store using the Goog-411 service. The goal being to create the equivalent of a 'click' in the online world that they 
could bill the company for sending that customer their way. I worked for about a month using some 20% time to sketch 
out what would have to be true for something like that to work, for example a microphone near the entrance to the 
store and a greater who would say hello to people, encouraging them to say hello back so that a voice sample could be 
collected. 

That project didn't really go anywhere as far as I could tell, Google was still leery about building hardware that 
had to live outside of data centers.

--Chuck



On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:10 AM, Dave Farber <farber () gmail com> wrote:



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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Date: April 3, 2018 at 7:00:23 AM EDT
To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] Hey, Alexa, What Can You Hear? And What Will You Do With It?
Reply-To: dewayne-net () warpspeed com

Hey, Alexa, What Can You Hear? And What Will You Do With It?
By SAPNA MAHESHWARI
Mar 31 2018
<https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/31/business/media/amazon-google-privacy-digital-assistants.html>

Amazon ran a commercial on this year’s Super Bowl that pretended its digital assistant Alexa had temporarily lost 
her voice. It featured celebrities like Rebel Wilson, Cardi B and even the company’s chief executive, Jeff Bezos.

While the ad riffed on what Alexa can say to users, the more intriguing question may be what she and other digital 
assistants can hear — especially as more people bring smart speakers into their homes.

Amazon and Google, the leading sellers of such devices, say the assistants record and process audio only after 
users trigger them by pushing a button or uttering a phrase like “Hey, Alexa” or “O.K., Google.” But each company 
has filed patent applications, many of them still under consideration, that outline an array of possibilities for 
how devices like these could monitor more of what users say and do. That information could then be used to identify 
a person’s desires or interests, which could be mined for ads and product recommendations.

In one set of patent applications, Amazon describes how a “voice sniffer algorithm”could be used on an array of 
devices, like tablets and e-book readers, to analyze audio almost in real time when it hears words like “love,” 
bought” or “dislike.” A diagram included with the application illustrated how a phone call between two friends 
could result in one receiving an offer for the San Diego Zoo and the other seeing an ad for a Wine of the Month 
Club membership.

Some patent applications from Google, which also owns the smart home product maker Nest Labs, describe how audio 
and visual signals could be used in the context of elaborate smart home setups.

One application details how audio monitoring could help detect that a child is engaging in “mischief” at home by 
first using speech patterns and pitch to identify a child’s presence, one filing said. A device could then try to 
sense movement while listening for whispers or silence, and even program a smart speaker to “provide a verbal 
warning.”

A separate application regarding personalizing content for people while respecting their privacy noted that voices 
could be used to determine a speaker’s mood using the “volume of the user’s voice, detected breathing rate, crying 
and so forth,” and medical condition “based on detected coughing, sneezing and so forth.”

The same application outlines how a device could “recognize a T-shirt on a floor of the user’s closet” bearing Will 
Smith’s face and combine that with a browser history that shows searches for Mr. Smith “to provide a movie 
recommendation that displays, ‘You seem to like Will Smith. His new movie is playing in a theater near you.’”

In a statement, Amazon said the company took “privacy seriously” and did “not use customers’ voice recordings for 
targeted advertising.” Amazon said that it filed “a number of forward-looking patent applications that explore the 
full possibilities of new technology,” and that they “take multiple years to receive and do not necessarily reflect 
current developments to products and services.”

Google said it did not “use raw audio to extrapolate moods, medical conditions or demographic information.” The 
company added, “All devices that come with the Google Assistant, including Google Home, are designed with user 
privacy in mind.”

Tech companies apply for a dizzying number of patents every year, many of which are never used and are years from 
even being possible.

Still, Jamie Court, the president of Consumer Watchdog, a nonprofit advocacy group in Santa Monica, Calif., which 
published a study of some of the patent applications in December, said, “When you read parts of the applications, 
it’s really clear that this is spyware and a surveillance system meant to serve you up to advertisers.”

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