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Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th


From: "Dave Farber" <farber () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2017 11:58:59 -0400




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From: "Glenn S. Tenney" <tenney () think org>
Date: September 27, 2017 at 8:42:40 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: ip <ip () listbox com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re US Homeland Security Will Start Collecting Social Media Info on All Immigrants October 18th

(for IP if you wish, Dave)

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:03:11PM -0400, Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder () opus1 com> wrote:
Anyone who doesn't think that it is fair game for the USG to ask
for your social media handles and email addresses and a ton of
other very, very personal information before allowing immigration
is living in a fantasy-land of ignorance.  Social media handles
(not passwords mind you, just handles) are one of the least
intrusive things that happen to someone when they ask to immigrate
to the United States.

Two things to note:

(1) Immigration in the Fed Register Notice includes: Anyone crossing
the border into the US -- not just people asking for a Visa or a Green
Card, etc.

(2) Remember that virtually whatever (onerous or intrusive though it
may be) things demanded by the USA for anyone visiting will be met
in-kind by other countries. That's what happened when the US required
fingerprinting of every visitor to the USA. Therefore, if the social
media data is requested, then many other countries will do the same to
US citizens visiting their countries.

Joel, as a person heavily involved in the IEEE, how do you think the
US members will feel about every other country making such demands?
Do you think that's "fair game"? Do you think it won't be met with
disdain? Do you think IEEE members will agree with you or even
appreciate your view above?

-- 
Glenn Tenney CISSP CISM



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