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Re: German court orders wireless passwords for all


From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:05:35 -0400





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From: Rigo Wenning <rigo () w3 org>
Date: May 18, 2010 2:41:46 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re:  German court orders wireless passwords for all


Hi Dave,

the court decision was not by the Federal constitutional court but by the hightest civil court (Bundesgerichtshof). Everybody waits for the written
opinion to see what their decision really means.

In fact, a person was on holidays when somebody used his unsecured wifi network to make a music download. There was no massive download involved. Most reports emphasized that the court required people to change the default
password to something more secure to be out of liability.

Let's see what comes out, but already today, we can see that free wifi will be
very difficult to organize in Germany in the future.

Best,

Rigo

On Saturday 15 May 2010 03:06:59 David Farber wrote:
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From: Konrad Neuwirth <konrad () fimsch net>
Date: May 13, 2010 5:19:47 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] German court orders wireless passwords for all

Hello there,

although there was a ruling and it was quite important, I feel that a few
corrections are in order.

Am 12.05.2010 um 18:37 schrieb Dave Farber:
BERLIN – Germany's top criminal court ruled Wednesday that Int ernet users need to secure their private wireless connections by password to prevent unauthorized people from using their Web access to illegally
download data.

The court that spoke was actually the Bundesverfassungsgerichtshof -- the
Federal Constitutional Court. You can find it's web presence at
<http://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/en/index.html>.  it as much a
criminal court as the supreme court in the US is.

Internet users can be fined up to euro100 ($126) if a third party takes advantage of their unprotected WLAN connection to illegally download music or other files, the Karlsruhe-based court said in its verdict.

What the verdict says is actually a little more specific, and it's actually in part good news. Before the verdict, lawyers chasing down the illegal sharing of copyrighted materials could (and did) make up horrendous sums of 'damages' that the use of file sharing technologies caused, sending out
large bills to the owners of the specific IP numbers at the time of
sharing. This is now no longer possible, for there is now the 100 EUR limit on such cases. It's also not a 'fine' in the sense that it's a money transaction involving the government -- it's actually just between the
rightholders lawyers and the internet user.

It also says that the owner of unsecured WLANs can be held responsible for any and all copyright violations coming from their network, even if they were on holiday at that time -- the lack of proper WLAN protection is the
point what makes them responsible.

It'll be interesting to see how WLAN access point vendors react now.

//Konrad




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