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Re: policy based email delivery accept/decline?
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:14:37 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: March 28, 2010 5:15:39 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: policy based email delivery accept/decline? Oh that's just great -- that's all we need -- legal battles over sender vs. recipient rights in routine e-mail. First off, mailing list admins really have no way to know how many people on their lists actually use Gmail or any other mail system, since forwarding addresses could be pointing invisibly at other addresses unbeknownst to the list. But anyway, the message below suggests a misunderstanding of Gmail privacy policies. If there is sensitive material going out on a mailing list, I'd be much more concerned about *human* recipients of the list "leaking" items to "unapproved" parties, rather than losing sleep over the keyword ad-scanning algorithms of Gmail (and the same for the vast numbers of spam and virus scanning systems that inspect every piece of inbound mail pretty much everywhere these days). Gmail really doesn't care what you write about, other than from the standpoint of whether or not it can choose what it believes to be relevant ads for the recipient of the e-mail who has chosen to use Gmail. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, GCTIP - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance - http://www.gctip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenweinstein - - - On 03/28 16:36, Dave Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message:From: Doug Humphrey <doug () joss com> Date: March 28, 2010 4:11:49 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: policy based email delivery accept/decline ?for IP if you like A question for a lot of smart people - is it reasonable to discuss a set of "policy" flags on email headers which express the originators sensitivity to certain practices exercised on emails? As an example, I am on a number of email lists, small things, and generally not at ALL what could be called "public". When I send a message to a list like this, I do NOT feel that I am publishing in any "public" sort of way, and it is understood among the members of the list that what is said on the list stays on the list. Recently, a couple of the members of the lists have started using Gmail accounts. Since Gmail/Google has specific policies that allow it to treat that information as its own, within a limited scope, it brings into questions the privacy policy of the list, and its ability to enforce it. A simple answer is to ban the use of Gmail accounts from the list or to just tell people "if the Gmail thing bothers you don't send to the list" - but while this would work in the simple immediate case, it doesn't scale well, and there are larger questions. MIGHT there be a technical means, with the sender stating "policy" on what they accept and decline to have their message subjected to, and the mail receiver stating their policy positions, and having delivery be able to be rejected in case of a mismatch in policy? Caller ID works a lot like this with the sender deciding to allow it or not, and the receiver being able to accept calls that have blocked ID or not as their policy dictates. thanks, doug------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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