] re: cheap "femtocell"

[Dave Farber <dave () farber net>]

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> From: Michael Slavitch <slavitch () gmail com>
> Date: January 8, 2010 5:32:18 PM EST
> To: dave () farber net, ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
> Subject: Re: [IP] re:  cheap "femtocell"
> Reply-To: slavitch () gmail com

> They're getting a big prize called attention.
>
> The branding value of the unpaid media that will result from getting  
> banned will greatly outstrip the cost of development of this device.
>
> Heads I win tails you lose.
>
> ATT should of course co opt them and resell it under their own  
> brand. They need all the help they can get.
>
> M
>
> Michael Slavitch
>
> From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:24:29 -0500
> To: ip<ip () v2 listbox com>
> Subject: [IP] re: cheap "femtocell"
>
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> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Stefano Quintarelli <stefano () quintarelli it>
> > Date: January 8, 2010 3:18:19 PM EST
> > To: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com>
> > Cc: "nnsquad () nnsquad org" <nnsquad () nnsquad org>
> > Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: MagicJack introducing cheap "femtocell"
>
> > as I understand from the article it's basically a femto with some  
> > sw hacks to allow handset registration.
> >
> > its legality, from a patent perspective might be uncertain. It  
> > would seem strange to me if they were able to obtain licenses to  
> > the gsm  patent pools.
> >
> > from the frequency usage perspective, it varies significantly  
> > depending on countries.
> >
> > the uk have licensed separate usages for low power devices for  
> > indoor use to companies other than the usual telcos.
> >
> > in some countries low power devices are allowed within strict  
> > limits with no specific exclusion of gsm low bands
> >
> > in other countries it is clearly prohibited
> >
> > in others, it is unclear
> >
> > the reason is that the regulations are somewhat layered. first came  
> > a liberalization of srd (short range devices) then the regulations  
> > for gsm;  at those times, with the cost of bts, noone really  
> > thought that bts would eventually economically become srd.
> >
> > I looked into it in some european countries in the past, asking to  
> > various NRAs and obtained different answers.
> >
> > ciao, s.
> >
> >  [ Another issue -- how easily could such devices be subverted
> >    to intercept calls inappropriately?  Hmm.
> >
> >       -- Lauren Weinstein
> >          NNSquad Moderator ]
> >
> > --
> > http://blog.quintarelli.it
> >
> > Il giorno 08/gen/2010, alle ore 19.44, Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com 
> > > ha scritto:
> >
> > > MagicJack introducing cheap "femtocell"
> > >
> > > http://bit.ly/7qiZou  (AP)
> > >
> > > The actual legality of this particular device is not immediately  
> > > clear
> > > to me without digging into some details.  I'm wondering if it has
> > > received FCC approval?  I didn't find obviously relevant  
> > > references in
> > > the FCC database during an initial search.
> > >
> > > --Lauren--
> > > NNSquad Moderator
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