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Re: Court says police can use GPS to track anyone
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 17:14:38 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Schmidt <schmidt () provider com> Date: May 12, 2009 8:50:53 AM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Court says police can use GPS to track anyoneDave, legislation would be the best way to overcome this particular GPS issue.
But in the meantime, turnabout is fair play and the answer to all of these Big Brother technology issues is always the same - we need to watch them more often than they are watching us.
The antidote to ubiquitous information collection by the government and the OBDB (one big database) is ubiquitous information collection by the citizens. We need more data on them than they have on us.
So, until that legislation is passed, put your GPS on their vehicle and watch where the police go.
Start a citizens database on the government and start populating it.Form an army of bloggers and video teams to sit in on trials and report on what the courts are doing.
The coming flood of retired baby boomers is the most logical human resource to be employed in this endeavor.
We marched, we protested and we changed the government in our youth. Now in our old age we will do again.We will incite another peaceful revolution, this time with technology as our weapon of choice.
Best regards, Bob Schmidt Author, The Geek's Guide to Internet Business Success Orlando, FL Currently in Cancun Mexico where there is not a single confirmed case of swine flu At 02:16 PM 5/11/2009, you wrote:
Begin forwarded message: From: bobr () bobrosenberg phoenix az us Date: May 11, 2009 2:23:12 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Court says police can use GPS to track anyone Hi Dave Perhaps for I.P. Just in case you (mistakenly?) thought the 4th Amendment still exists.... Cheers, Bob -- Bob Rosenberg P.O. Box 33023 Phoenix, AZ 85067-3023 Mobile: 602-206-2856 LandLine: 602-274-3012 bob () bobrosenberg phoenix az us May 10, 2009 9:04 PM PDT Court says police can use GPS to track anyone by Chris Matyszczyk http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10237353-71.html?tag=nl.e703 I haven't managed to become dependent on GPS yet. It seems to be quite fun when you're driving in strange areas of America. But I'm not sure I want to hear a voice telling me where to go all the time. It's all a little too, well, corporate for me. Or a little too like a 20-year-old marriage. However, I was moved to virtual paralysis when I learned that an appeals court in Wisconsin decided that police can stick a GPS-tracking device on anyone they want without getting a search warrant. Even if that person is not suspected of anything more than living, breathing and expectorating. The Fourth District U.S. Court of Appeals doesn't seem terribly happy about its own decision. However, the court decided, after much rumination, that GPS does not involve searching and seizing.Which means that any information gained by sticking a secret GPS- tracking device onsomeone's car will only yield information that could have been gleaned through normal visual surveillance.Some might wonder, normal visual surveillance by whom? R2D2? Spiderman?The decision stemmed from a case against Michael Sveum, a Madison resident who was accused of stalking. In his case, police got a warrant to slip a GPS on his car. Sveum argued that this contravened his Fourth Amendment rights, which protect him against unreasonable search and seizure. His lawyers said that he was followed out of the public view, in intimate places such as his garage. The court begged to differ, declaring that an officer could have used his eyes to see when Sveum entered and left his garage. I don't know about you, but I'm a little disquieted about this. Imagine if you'd met a nice person in a bar. Having spent some considerable overnight time with thisperson, you discover that this person is the lover of a police officer.This ruling seems to say that the officer can track your every movement by sticking a GPS on your chassis with a view to sticking a haymaker on your chin. Yes, this might sound a somewhat unlikely example. But surely you see the point. Larry Dupuis, legal director of the ACLU in Wisconsin, does. He told the Chicago Tribune: "The idea that you can go and attach anything you want to somebody else's property without any court supervision, that's wrong. Without a warrant, they can do this on anybody they want." Even the appeals court itself is "more than a little troubled" by its own misdirected thinking and suggested that lawmakers in Wisconsin regulate the use of GPS by its officials. I have a theory, however. I believe the court made this decision because it wants the police to track every single movement taken by former Green Bay quarterback and legendary mind-changing diva Brett Favre. The Cheeseheads want to know whether he's staying retired or whether he's thinking of unretiring yet again, don't they?Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises majorcorporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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