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Lawyesr Gone Wild and the Board of Directors was Where Exactly?
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:37:29 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: ann marie plubell <amplubell () yahoo com> Date: March 17, 2009 5:33:59 PM EDT To: dave () farber net Subject: Lawyesr Gone Wild and the Board of Directors was Where Exactly? Dave, I am stunned and thrown back into a reverie about my chosen profession.“Outside counsel has advised that these are legal, binding obligations of AIG, and there are serious legal, as well as business, consequences for not paying.” (Source Liddy letter to Geitner, March 14, 2009)
Could it be a firm as excellent as Weil Gotshal rendered this advice? http://www.weil.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?news=37241It seems odd that they would fall prey to a textbook-worthy example of lawyering based on what the client says is the desired outcome versus desired lawyering which identifies the options and leaves business judgment (in the AIG case-to determine whether to pay or to challenge payment) to the individuals tasked with exercising that judgment-the board of directors-the record of that decision properly documented in the minutes of a special meeting to consider the matter. Where the hell was the Board at any point in this sorry saga anyway?
There is no contract that cannot be renegotiated or the grounds of making it subject to challenge. Contracts 101.
Ann Marie Ann Marie Plubell JD, LLM, MBA The Plubell Firm LLC "East-West Business Bridge" 3429 Quebec Street NW, Washington, DC 20016 USA 202-537-1982 US Beijing mobile (011-86) 13651149091 ann.marie () erols com www.plubellfirm.com http://www.linkedin.com/pub/b/375/b65 From: David Farber <dave () farber net> To: ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:35:15 PMSubject: [IP] Re: Sen. Charles Grassley suggested AIG executives should take a Japanese approach
Begin forwarded message: From: "David S. Isenberg (isen)" <isen () isen com> Date: March 17, 2009 1:42:44 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, rjr () rjriley comSubject: Re: [IP] Sen. Charles Grassley suggested AIG executives should take a Japanese approach
Ronald, The point is acknowledgement of the misdeed by the actor, and only secondarily punishment. Significantly, it is self-punishment. In contrast, we have these guys who actually believe that because a contract exists, they deserve rewards regardless of what they've done. What Grassley seems to want to change is the actors' states of self-awareness. David I ------------------ 203-661-4798 (main number, follows me everywhere) 888-isen.com (toll free) 508-548-5924 (Woods Hole) AIM, Skype, Y!IM: david_isenberg http://isen.com/blog http://freedom-to-connect.net ------------------ On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Farber wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Ronald J Riley \(RJR Com\)" <rjr () rjriley com> > Date: March 17, 2009 10:09:15 AM EDT > To: <dave () farber net>> Subject: Sen. Charles Grassley suggested AIG executives should take a Japanese approach
> > >> IOWA CITY, Iowa - Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley suggested on Monday that AIG executives should take a Japanese approach toward accepting responsibility for the collapse of the insurance giant by resigning or killing themselves.
> > More: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29733519/ > > Or how about we bring back old fashioned tar and feathering J > > Ronald J Riley > > Archives > ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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