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Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:42:13 -0500
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From: Gene Gaines <gene.gaines () gainesgroup com> Date: December 1, 2009 6:09:49 PM EST To: dave <dave () farber net> Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?
Dave, Lauren, You are just being silly. Why would you worry about Verizon FIOS policing off-topic posts?I would be more worried that Verizon enjoys the right to censor, suspend or cut your access to the Internet for any reason they choose.I will quote from Verizon's Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy:If you use Verizon Internet access services, then you have agreed to: (From the Verizon web site www.verison.net) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY1. General Policy: Verizon reserves the sole discretion to deny or restrict your Service, or immediately to suspend or terminate your Service, if the use of your Service by you or anyone using it, in our sole discretion, violates the Agreement or other Verizon policies, is objectionable or unlawful, interferes with the functioning or use of the Internet or the Verizon network by Verizon or other users, or violates the terms of this Acceptable Use Policy ("AUP").So, to recap the above, the user had agreed to:Verizon reserves the sole discretion to deny or restrict your Service ... suspend or terminate your Service, if the use of your Service ... in our sole discretion, violates the Agreement or other Verizon policies, is objectionable or unlawful....This raises the question as to the definition of "Service". Here it is.VERIZON ONLINE TERMS OF SERVICE ...2.2. "Service" means all Verizon dial-up, Broadband Service and Wi- Fi wireless Internet access services (where applicable), Software, Equipment, Content, Additional Services as defined in Attachment B, technical support, email, domain name server ("DNS") and related services, Verizon Web Sites and other products and services provided by Verizon under the pricing plan applicable to your Service. The Service does not include voice telephony services.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (end quote from Verizon.) Whew! Gene Gaines On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Dave Farber <dave () farber net> wrote: If this is accurate, it is outragious. djf Begin forwarded message:From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: December 1, 2009 3:34:38 PM EST To: nnsquad () nnsquad org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?Verizon FiOS to police off-topic postings?Slashdot notes an "interesting" (indeed!) change made yesterday to theFiOS Acceptable Use Policy, prohibiting "post[ing] off-topicinformation on message boards, chat rooms or social networking sites."Say what? Is this a case of a Verizon lawyer with too much time on his or her hands? Or does Verizon now intend to police, prosecute, terminate, or otherwise flog and punish users for "irrelevance" in postings that users make on sites completely unaffiliated with Verizon?Verizon appears to have elevated simple "off-topic" postings (whateverthat really means!) to the same level as DDoS attacks, Trojans, spam, and libel. Exactly who is going to determine which "offenders" rise to a level suitable for Verizon to slam down the AUP hammer? Or maybe it's really an excuse to provide a new conduit for providing users' IPaddress information to sites that are upset about particular postings?ISPs should be delivering bits, not playing "off-topic" content cop enforcers. http://bit.ly/6LScLw (Slashdot) --Lauren-- NNSquad ModeratorArchives
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