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Stock Injection and the bailout


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:15:12 -0400



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From: Scott Alexander <salex () dsalex org>
Date: October 5, 2008 8:12:27 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Subject: Stock Injection and the bailout

I'd also like to suggest that people listen to the This American Life episode for this week ("365: Another Frightening Show About the Economy" http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx? episode=365). As was mentioned on IP earlier this week, it gives a nice description of the stock injection approach that seems to have snuck into the law and that seems to provide better protection for the taxpayers instead of for Wall Street executives.

Additionally, it is the clearest description that I've heard of how CDSs work, why they became such a problem, and how that problem was the creation of a lightly regulated financial industry. After listening tot he show, I've come away with the belief that the problems with poor mortgages (while bad enough on their own) were really only the thing that happened to bump into an elaborately leveraged network of trust relationships where no one was allowed to know anyone except their one hop neighbors. Any of a number of bank failures or corporate failures could have equally produced the impetus to failure.

In particular, they explain that the original concept of a CDS was as an insurance policy. Thus, if one held a bond, one could, for a percentage of the value of the bond, get a CDS that guaranteed to pay off the principal of the bond if the bond ended up in default. However, lack of regulation meant that 1) you didn't have to actually hold the bond to get a CDS (meaning that speculation became possible) and 2) to issue the CDS, you didn't have to have reserves sufficient to cover the payout if the bond defaulted. This was combined with a system where company B would get a CDS from company A, say for 2%. If the bond issuer suddenly seemed shakier, B would turn around and issue a CDS to C on the same bond for 4%. B now believes that it is earning 2% without needing to be concerned about paying off the CDS (since A will pay it in event of default). However, if the bond goes into default and A is bankrupted (because it didn't have reserves to cover that outcome), then B may well also be forced into bankruptcy.

As someone who often listens to This American Life and enjoys its quirky style and finding unusual aspects of life to look at, I was surprised at how current and topical this episode was.

Best,
Scott Alexander





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