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YouTube refuses Lieberman request (re removing content attributed to "Islamust terrorist organizations")


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:59:40 -0400




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From: Andrew C Burnette <acb () acb net>
Date: May 21, 2008 8:45:44 AM EDT
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Cc: "declan () well com" <declan () well com>
Subject: Re: [IP] YouTube refuses Lieberman request (re removing content attributed to "Islamust terrorist organizations")


Declan, David,

With the current US administrations decimation of the fourth amendment
(in communications mediums at the very least), the swing towards a false
moral high ground against anything and everything the bill of rights
stands for continues. So, why would the first amendment not be the next
natural target "of moral outrage?"

I do recall taking US history a few years back. Somehow, the brochure
and the new reality don't quite match.

Best regards,
andy burnette

p.s. a good example of US 'inversion of morality' as we find it
perfectly acceptable to show a graphic murder on broadcast television,
just so long as the victim (or their writer of course) keeps their
clothing on during the entire process.

David Farber wrote:
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From: Declan McCullagh [declan () well com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 2:17 PM
To: David Farber
Cc: ip; victormarks () gmail com
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: YouTube refuses Lieberman request (re removing content attributed to "Islamust terrorist organizations")

Victor Marks wrote:
Freedom of speech in the US (Google is a US company) allows terrorists
and their supporters to say what they wish - although freedom of
speech does not compel Google to give them a stage and audience.

Nobody is saying otherwise. What serious person would argue that Google
is "compelled" to provide anyone a YouTube platform?

The questions before us are whether Google and its peers (a) will see
their 230 immunity weakened, (b) will be compelled through force of law to censor, which is what Lieberman suggested yesterday to us through his spokeswoman and what Durban said today in the hearing, and (c) whether a hypothetical Lieberman-Durban censorship law would pass First Amendment
muster.

-Declan



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