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Re: a pricing model??
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:49:14 -0700
________________________________________ From: David P. Reed [dpreed () reed com] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:36 PM To: David Farber; Gerry Faulhaber Cc: ip Subject: Re: [IP] Re: a pricing model?? Er, all the costs of the Internet are not mostly or all capacity costs, Gerry. Some of the costs are, and even those are functions also of time of construction/deployment and Moore's Law. Access network opex has very little to do with capacity, as one well understood example. But there are many more, and my sense is that they far dominate any pure capacity costs. And of course, references to the concept of economic efficiency when the system is far from an economic equilibrium, as in the reality we actually face due to regulatory capture, monopoly misbehavior, etc., makes me wonder if you're just kidding. :-) Finally, one needs to consider that there is enough uncertainty in the system that one has to include contingent value on the cost side. There's certainly a reasonable likelihood that wireless access networks could substitute/compete for wired systems in many applications. The uncertainty around that substitution and the disruptions that would arise in pricing is substantial enough that I'd think an analysis based on "real options", game theory, and some significant level of uncertain externalities would be necessary to model the system in a believable way, if at all possible. Now if, for example, the end user owned and maintained his/her own raw fiber up to a peering point, then we'd move closer to a situation where economic efficiency might be a better *local* approximation (maybe). I'd be happier in a liquid economic world where gov't-industry collusive behavior were replaced by the policing that comes from competition, as I am sure you would as well. But in that architecture we'd not be dealing with congestion in the access network - only with congestion in the backbone. And we wouldn't need net neutrality in the access network either - use your own fiber any d***ed way you like. In sum, I'm not convinced that a simplistic economic analysis is helpful here. David Farber wrote:
Whew! Somebody finally got it right! When all the costs are capacity costs (as in the Internet), then the economically most efficient pricing (in theory) is what Bohn calls "spot" pricing,
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