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Re: This is BAD news -- Google Ordered to Turn Over YouTube User Data
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:55:14 -0700
________________________________________ From: Michael R. Nelson [mnelson () pobox com] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:20 PM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] Re: This is BAD news -- Google Ordered to Turn Over YouTube User Data Even though the decision will almost certainly appealed, the fact that a judge ruled for Viacom indicates how badly we need to rationalize how copyright applies online. It's frightening that the privacy rights of tens of millions of YouTube users matter so little. If this decision stands, there would be nothing to prevent any content owner (in the US or elsewhere) from suing Goggle and getting the data Viacom is demanding. Michael R. Nelson Visiting Professor, Internet Studies CCT Georgetown University Washington, DC David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote: ________________________________________ From: Synthesis:Law and Technology Law and Technology [synthesis.law.and.technology () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:02 PM To: David Farber; Brock N Meeks Cc: ip Subject: Re: [IP] This is BAD news -- Google Ordered to Turn Over YouTube User Data Dave, This will most certainly be appealed. Google has the resources as well as the interest and they can certainly find grounds for appeal in the decision. If you read the linked EFF page, they lay out a brief introduction to some of the possible grounds for appeal and I am sure there are others. Bad news? Yes. But it is not over yet. Can you see Google welcoming this decision and not fighting it? It would be a huge (read google-sized) headache for them to comply with. Dan Dan Steinberg SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology 35, du Ravin phone: (613) 794-5356 Chelsea, Quebec J9B 1N1 On 7/3/08, David Farber > wrote: ________________________________________ From: Brock N Meeks [bmeeks () cox net] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:40 PM To: David Farber Subject: Google Ordered to Turn Over YouTube User Data Dave, Forgive me if I've just missed someone else posting this. The following is from EFF regarding a court ruling released late yesterday. The mainstream press hasn't jumped on this like I would image, the first reports came out about a parallel ruling in the case in that denied a Viacom request for Google to hand over source code. But here's the real hub of the decision handed down yesterday: Yesterday, in the Viacom v. Google litigation, the federal court for the Southern District of New York ordered Google to produce to Viacom (over Google's objections): "...all data from the Logging database concerning each time a YouTube video has been viewed on the YouTube website or through embedding on a third-party website..." The court's order grants Viacom's request and erroneously ignores the protections of the federal Video Privacy Protection Act (VPPA), and threatens to expose deeply private information about what videos are watched by YouTube users. The VPPA passed after a newspaper disclosed Supreme Court nominee Robert Bork's video rental records. As Congress recognized, your selection of videos to watch is deeply personal and deserves the strongest protection. The Logging database contains: "....for each instance a video is watched, the unique "login ID" of the user who watched it, the time when the user started to watch the video, the internet protocol address other devices connected to the internet use to identify the user's computer ("IP address"), and the identifier for the video." [snip] http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2008/07/court-ruling-will-expose-viewing-habits-youtube-us -- ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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