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Encrypt your email (Re: DPI and ISPs versus Gmail and Google)


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:42:22 -0700

Yes it will be an interesting discussion. Many moons ago, Steve Walker, Marshall Rose and I did a real transparent 
encrypted mail system (like over 20 years ago). Worked like a charm. No one wanted it

Dave
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From: Tony Lauck [tlauck () madriver com]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:11 PM
To: David Farber
Subject: Encrypt your email   (Re: [IP] DPI and ISPs versus Gmail and Google)

If your only email privacy concern is with your ISP and you don't have
an option to switch ISP service then you can always use a third party
email service that supports two way encrypted mail transmission. If you
really need your email to be private then you must encrypt your email.
If your correspondents don't support end-to-end email encryption, your
mail is probably not private no matter what your ISP does. End to-end
encryption is the only hope for privacy; there are too many middlemen to
possibly trust.

One might ask if there is such concern with privacy, why do very few
people use encrypted email?  This might lead to an interesting discussion.

Tony Lauck
https://www.aglauck.com



David Farber wrote:
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From: jon.strayer () gmail com [jon.strayer () gmail com] On Behalf Of Jon Strayer [jon () strayer org]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:31 AM
To: David Farber
Subject: For IP DPI and ISPs versus Gmail and Google

For IP if you wish.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:55 AM, David Farber <dave () farber net<mailto:dave () farber net>> wrote:

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From: Seth Finkelstein [sethf () sethf com<mailto:sethf () sethf com>]

       I'd say the elephant in the room is Google's Gmail. People
know that, right? Recall, Gmail READS EVERY MAIL MESSAGE TO SERVE ADS!

Ah, but there is a big difference.  I can use Gmail or not.  I can use Gmail for things that are going to be posted 
on the Internet anyway and another account for things I really want to keep private.

But if my ISP is scanning every packet then I'm stuck.  Sure, I can switch to another ISP, but the odd are they are 
going to scan the packets too.




       This all seems to be a slippery slope in action:

1) Email is scanned for spam and virus reasons
2) So Google can scan email to serve ads

Google can scan my email because I gave them permission to do so (by using their optional service).  Having an ISP is 
not optional if you want to use the Internet.


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