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Re: Automatic License Plate Recognition in BC
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:03:18 -0800
________________________________________ From: pat hache sov [tercasa () prodigy net mx] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:51 PM To: David Farber Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Automatic License Plate Recognition in BC Dave, for IP if you wish... in UK, a criminal - after killing 5 women in his neighborhood - was recently formally processed after some evidence of his license plate was "seen" by a similar device and helped confirm (until the judgment is declared) a reasonable motive to process him. The serial killer was smart enough as not to be caught by "normal" methods, even many surveillance cameras saw parts of his activities without any valid argument, but finally it was a license plate reading system who defined - until confirmed by judges - his probable culpability in those murders . I wonder if the victims of this rudeman or their families would be considering the same points as Thomas ,as a war , and anyways there WAS already a kind of war against those victims at the individual level of such rudeman. Patrick Herbiet S. (Bruxelles) El 17/01/20083, a las 07:09 a.m., David Farber escribió:
________________________________________ From: Thomas Roach [kodakfilm () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:06 AM To: David Farber Cc: Thomas Roach; ip Subject: Re: [IP] Automatic License Plate Recognition in BC I work as a volunteer policeman in Lincoln, CA. The word is we will soon purchase a license plate reading system. The police in the adjoining town already have two cars with devices on the roof of their cars equipped to read license plates on cars moving in both directions. Determining if the plate is not registered [usually means the owner hasn't paid the license fee] or if it is listed as stolen, is done by computer and is almost instantaneous. The system certainly could be used in finding people suspected of crimes or for whom a warrant has been sworn for their arrest. Whether thIs this an invasion of privacy or an "illegal search" is beyond my scope. That won't stop it from happening. I think what I most dislike is not that the government is routinely doing this and a LOT more at the federal level, but the fact that our government [Congress to be exact] doesn't have the balls to declare war. Of course we have a lot of people who think you can't declare war on a "religion". We are effectively declaring war on an evil belief system that honestly believes you have the right to kill hundreds of people based on their not accepting your belief system. That is sort of what war is all about and why it shouldn't be declared solely by the executive branch without the consent, make that a legal declaration, by Congress as I believe is required by the Constitution. I'd have a hard time these days taking the oath of enlistment I swore through my 20 years of service in the USAF, since we swore to protect the Constitution, not the executive branch. Anyway, if a war is won, the belief is that your rights under the Constitution are restored. I think that too is a thing of the past. I'm almost 70 and have more or less, mostly more, given up on the belief that the country of my youth, exists in any meaningful sense anymore. The sexual mores have certainly changed in ways I was so sure was good when I was young and horny. When I hear of the lyrics of the songs sung by hip-hop jive ass scum or read of the escapades of the likes of some of the current "stars", I am fairly sure we would be better of with some restrictions on "free" speech, except in the political arena. As for current societal behavior, there doesn't seem to be any sense that the "stars" are acting improperly, just prurient interest by the public in their unseemly behavior. The public seems to have no sense that "rights" require responsibility. Technology has changed a lot and from my point of view more access to information is always a plus. That assumes the information is used to help you make an informed decision. The current administration has made a joke of the FOIA and almost any "right" to federal documents or decisions. Thanks to the acts of terrorists, most people correctly think it is the job of the government to protect us from terrorists. I think they are right but think from a Constitutional point of view this means we need to declare war. It sure isn't like WW2 or Korea when the enemy was clearly defined and the average American was totally willing to make the sacrifices required to defeat the enemy. Well, maybe we better leave out Korea and certainly every other "war" we have been involved in since then. I guess in the end people will pay a price for giving up their liberties short of having declared a war at which point you basically have almost no rights. In the meanwhile because of the not unjustified fear of terrorists, we have made mince meat of almost all our "rights" and that is probably the sole reason we haven't had another attack within the continental USA. Re our rights under the Constitution, I wouldn't expect them back anytime soon, regardless of what we elect. Thomas Roach thomasbroach () mac com http://gallery.mac.com/thomasbroach On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:15 AM, David Farber wrote:________________________________________ From: Kurt Albershardt [kurt () nv net] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:04 PM To: David Farber Subject: Automatic License Plate Recognition in BC Mobile multicamera system looks impressive on the promotional video but the implications are a bit unsettling <http://www.freesociety.ca/articles/alpr------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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