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Re: BEST LAW MONAY CAN BUY -- Senate votes Telecom immunity
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:24:48 -0800
________________________________________ From: Jim Warren [jwarren () well com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:35 PM To: David Farber Cc: DV Henkel-Wallace Subject: [IP] Re: BEST LAW MONAY CAN BUY -- Senate votes Telecom immunity
From: DV Henkel-Wallace <gumby () henkel-wallace org> ... Although the companies are accused of venality, I consider it unlikely because the were almost certainly not making a profit on the deal, but were just in fear of future regulatory or fiscal pressure.
It's entirely unclear how much profit they were and are making - and will make - from providing wiretap services to whichever regimes are in power at the time. However, an absolutely KEY aspect of the CALEA (Communication Assistance for Law Enforcement Act of 1994) was that the telecos had to provide remote-access snoop'n'peep services ONLY if they were PAID for those services. If I remember correctly, that single issue - heavily lobbied by the telecom cartel, complete with even greater-than-usual political "donations" - was so crucial, that CALEA was doomed to defeat until that fee-for-services mandate was included. But once fees were mandated, the bill then passed quickly and easily (no matter how many privacy advocates and civil libertarians opposed it). Note that the CALEA said that the telcos were under absolutely NO obligation to provide such snoop services, EXCEPT when they were fully paid for so-doing. Once Clinton signed CALEA into law, privacy and civlib advocates realized that their only hope of controlling its use (or abuse) MIGHT be through Congress' control of the purse-strings. No loot to pay the telecom cartel; no remote-access wiretaps! (So much for THAT idea!) As to them doing it out of patriotism OR fear of governmental pressure ... please recall that it was only in the last year or so that they bluntly threatened to stop providing those services unless and until they were paid! (Reported at the time, right here on Dave's IP list.) --jim ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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