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Re: The Five Stages of Collapse
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 07:14:01 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Vadim Antonov <avg () kotovnik com> Date: December 26, 2008 8:22:13 PM EST To: David Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: ip <ip () v2 listbox com> Subject: Re: [IP] The Five Stages of Collapse David - the comment for IP list, if you wish.
From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks) The collapse of the Soviet Union was not something that "Just happened" but was instead engineered by the master strategists of the Reagan Administration.
This is a persistent myth which has nothing to do with reality. Politicans
are apt to take credit for good things which happened without their help (and often in spite of their interference).The reasons for Soviet Union collapse were purely internal, and these same
reasons are behind collapses (or near collapses) of all socialisteconomies. In fact, the collapse of the USSR was accurately predicted and
explained as early as 1922 by the outstanding economist Ludwig von Mises (see "Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis", the online version is available at http://www.mises.org/books/socialism/contents.aspx). In short, socialist economies inevitably collapse because any form of central planning suppresses ability of economic actors to generateinformation about their subjective utilities (the human utility functions
are hidden and cannot be directly measured or observed - so the only way to discover what and how strongly people value is to observe their voluntary transactions). Lacking this information, the central plannerscan only use their own ideas about what other people may want (which would
be simplistic and wildly inaccurate) or rely on the previous year'sfigures to plan the production and distribution (this is what they did in
practice). (These previous figures can be typically traced back to the pre-socialist society in the past - for example, all Soviet productionfigures were provided with reference to 1913 levels - or can be exogenous,
abstracted from statistics of outside capitalist economies, which USSR government tried to do, unsuccessfully, - but which was translated intothe "Catch Up and Overtake" campaigns in 60s and 70s, before the apathy of
80s settled in).Using the previous figures works for a while, especially if the society is
static, but technological, environmental, and global societal changes inevitably cause divergence between the interpolation based solely on history and the reality - causing bigger and bigger misallocation of resources, until the economy is totally out of whack (this process was obvious to anyone who lived in the late USSR - there was a lot of junk produced which nobody wanted, while some pretty basic things were lacking). It was even worse in planning the production of non-consumer goods - so bad, in fact, that the whole Soviet economy was totally dependent on the shadowy profession of "snabzhentsy", people who were semi-officially engaged in industrial barter, criss-crossing the country and forging unofficial deals between different and nominally completely planned factories.The so-called economic calculation problem is alone sufficient to kill any
socialist economy. The concentration of political power needed for the total control inherent in central planning causes infinite opportunites for corruption and abuse of that political power also contributes to the self-destruction of the socialist utopias. --vadim ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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