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Re: That 5 gigabit cap is pulled back
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 04:28:29 -0700
________________________________________ From: Bill Williamson [bill () bbqninja com] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 7:14 AM To: David Farber Cc: Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com Subject: Re: [IP] Re: That 5 gigabit cap is pulled back On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:35 AM, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
I STRONGLY agree with Bob djf From: Bob Frankston [Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:56 PM To: David Farber; 'ip' Cc: 'Dave Burstein'; 'Lauren Weinstein' Subject: RE: [IP] That 5 gigabit cap is pulled back Why is a byte cap on local traffic fair? What am I consuming and why shouldn't I be able to watch 24x7 video streams from a local school or community event or from my neighbor? How is that different from a byte cap for the traffic within my home? Remember when some carriers wanted to sell home networking as an added value service? I realize that pricing is an art and you have to allocate costs. This is why a restaurant bundles the cost of space in the price of a sandwich. But we are talking about our fundamental ability to communicate within our community – there better be a very good reason for imposing limits on our ability to speak using assets that are easily paid for and have low operating costs which aren't closely tied to traffic. Remember these are the very same assets that run 24x7 gigabit streams of the carriers' bits in broadcast mode. What a waste!
Living in Australia under the regime of Telstra (and thus expensive uplink/peering) we are used to bandwidth capping, for better or worse (mostly the second...). The ISPs are mostly beholden to telstra because THEY are directly charged based on usage... so the economics work differently (tesltra charges differing costs for DSLAM ports wholesale DEPENDING ON USAGE, not just speed!!!) However, many ISPs here do some neat tricks: -locally hosted content (via ftp/rsync/steam server mirror/etc) is quota free -anything staying on that ISPs network is quota free (direct transfers to my neighbor, or even friend across town, is free) -There is a "local only" peering network called PIPE who connects major cities. This allows friendly ISPs to offer free traffic BETWEEN ISPs, as long as they don't touch the telstra network (and thus are peered through pipe) We have a best of/worst of situation.... horrible conditions, but it's lead to what I feel are useful innovations. --Bill ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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