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Re: Comcast opens up about how it manages traffic


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:37:48 -0700


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From: Dan Lynch [dan () lynch com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:20 PM
To: David Farber
Subject: Re: [IP] Comcast opens up about how it manages traffic

Balderdash!  Comcast is way behind the times. Two T-1 lines is not a "large
corporation" profile any more.  A T-1 is pretty puny nowadays.  Sure, Telcos
uses to make loads of money selling them to corporations (and still do) but
that is barely enough for home usage in the era of video.  I have a T-1 at
home and it is crappy most of the time for YouTube viewing.  I want more but
I live in the sticks and have to be satisfied with that.

My son has Comcast service at his mom's house and gets 16 meg download
service and that works pretty well for a teenager.  So, don't try to cry
poor mouth and say T-1 is big corporation stuff, Mr. Bowling.




On 4/21/08 8:28 AM, "David Farber" <dave () farber net> wrote:


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From: Bob Rosenberg [bob.redmountain () gmail com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:18 AM
To: David Farber
Cc: Lauren Weinstein
Subject: USA TODAY: Comcast opens up about how it manages traffic

Dave

Perhaps for I.P.

Bob Rosenberg



Comcast opens up about how it manages traffic
By Leslie Cauley, USA TODAY
Managing online traffic can be risky stuff. Just ask Comcast.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/services/2008-04-20-comcast-peer-to-peer
_N.htm

The cable TV giant came under fire recently when it slowed a "peer-to-peer"
transmission of the King James Bible sent as a test by an Associated Press
reporter.

At two special hearings held by the Federal Communications Commission ‹ one at
Harvard and another last week at Stanford ‹ the company was excoriated for
delaying peer-to-peer traffic.

Peer-to-peer transmissions, which account for more than half of all Web
traffic, enable computers to snatch music, data and video files from other
computers. To assemble one file, a peer-to-peer service can tap into dozens,
or even hundreds, of computers around the world.

Comcast
(CMCSA)<http://stocks.usatoday.com/custom/usatoday-com/html-quote.asp?symb=cmc
sa>, which has 13 million online customers, has been taking a low profile.
Executives Tony Werner, Comcast's chief technology officer, and Mitch Bowling,
senior vice president of online service, agreed to discuss the incident with
USA TODAY.

According to Werner, the transmission slowdown occurred automatically when
network congestion started to build in the Boston area, affecting other
customers. The King James transmission, which was small, didn't cause the
slowdown, he says.

Once traffic loads got too high, he says, Comcast's network automatically took
steps to avoid further degradation. The result: Some peer-to-peer traffic,
including the AP transmission, got delayed. But it was never blocked, he says.
The transmission "showed up. It just took a little longer to get there."

"The only reason you do something like that is to maintain consistent network
performance," Werner says.

At the FCC hearings, Comcast was criticized for throttling back peer-to-peer
traffic as a network management technique.

"The technique is not unique to Comcast," says Comcast's Bowling.

FCC Chairman Kevin Martin says Comcast should be specific about its bandwidth
limitations. "Consumers have to be informed about what they are buying," he
says.

Comcast service contracts say "excessive usage" is banned, but no cutoff point
is specified. Bowling says there's a good reason for that: "There isn't a
specific limit."

Bowling says Comcast considers incidents case-by-case. Only a handful of
people fall into the "excessive user" category, he says.

Pressed to say how much bandwidth consumption is too much, Bowling offers
this: People who use "the equivalent of two T-1 lines" ‹ big data lines used
by large corporations.

"I don't think anybody could look at that as typical residential usage," he
says.

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