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Re: P2P responsible for as much as 90 percent of all 'Net traffic
From: David Farber <dfarber () cs cmu edu>
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:33:11 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: "Bob Frankston" <bob37-2 () bobf frankston com> Date: September 5, 2007 11:46:53 AM EDT To: <dave () farber net>, <ip () v2 listbox com> Cc: "'Dewayne Hendricks'" <dewayne () warpspeed com>Subject: RE: [IP] P2P responsible for as much as 90 percent of all 'Net traffic
Remember that these measures are dependent upon where you put your meters. How much of the traffic is within local networks including homes. What about the video broadcast on broadband – those bits wind up in the bit bucket but can occupy 99% of the capacity of those pipes. As to the 90% P2P number -- that's percentage of the pipes as currently lit which is not the same as 90% of the total capacity though it may indeed represent a major portion of the capacity of constrictions like transoceanic cables.
Of course there is also the use of P2P to mean piracy when protocols like Bit Torrent make a lot more sense than using TCP to transfer data for corporate and application.
As usual we need to understand the questions and the reason for asking them as much as the answers. Hmm – deep packet inspection – a way to get those nasty P2P bits off of the service provider’s networks – can’t have users deciding how to use those paths – it’s not as if communities have any rights to their own rights of way.
Power to DELIVERY CONTENT TO the people, AKA Power From The People, Bits To the People.
Of course these focus on video keeps our attention away from all the vital apps that broadband excludes in its emphasis on speed without control.
-----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 04:36 To: ip () v2 listbox comSubject: [IP] P2P responsible for as much as 90 percent of all 'Net traffic
Begin forwarded message: From: dewayne () warpspeed com (Dewayne Hendricks) Date: September 4, 2007 10:22:08 AM EDT To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <xyzzy () warpspeed com> Subject: [Dewayne-Net] P2P responsible for as much as 90 percent of all 'Net traffic P2P responsible for as much as 90 percent of all 'Net traffic By Eric Bangeman | Published: September 03, 2007 - 09:00PM CT <http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070903-p2p-responsible-for-as- much-as-90-percent-of-all-net-traffic.html> P2P traffic is dominating the Internet these days, according to a new survey from ipoque, a German traffic management and analysis firm. ipoque's "preliminary results" show that P2P applications account from anywhere between 50 percent and 90 percent of all Internet traffic. The final survey results are not yet available and will presented at the Emerging Technology Conference at MIT later this month. Leading the way is BitTorrent, which has surpassed eDonkey as the P2P protocol of choice. During the last year, BitTorrent accounted for between 50 percent to 75 percent of all P2P traffic, with eDonkey coming in second at between 5 percent and 50 percent. The wide variance in the figures is due to local preference, according to ipoque: in some parts of the world, eDonkey still reigns supreme when it comes to P2P traffic. When Skype went offline for a couple of days last month due to a "perfect storm," the outcry was loud and furious. ipoque's data shows why: Skype is responsible for as much as 2 percent of traffic in some areas, despite the fact that it is not terribly bandwidth-intensive. ipoque's data appears at odds with that of Ellacoya Networks, a company that makes deep packet inspection gear. The company said in June that P2P traffic accounts for just 37 percent of North American traffic, compared with 46 percent for HTTP traffic. Of that 46 percent, over a third consisted of streaming video, à la YouTube. Despite the differences in how the traffic is broken out, ipoque and Ellacoya's data both illustrate the degree to which users' desire for video is affecting the Internet. It seems safe to assume that much of the P2P traffic reported by both firms is video. Combine that with the surge in traffic to YouTube and other video sites, as well as the official upcoming launch of Joost, and it paints a picture that some ISPs will find disturbing: demand for high-bandwidth applications like video is increasing. That's why ISPs are so interested in deep packet inspection and other traffic-shaping tools. ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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