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Re: About the Dark Side
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:47:21 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Ole Jacobsen <ole () cisco com> Date: October 1, 2007 11:42:20 PM EDT To: Andrew Burnette <acb () acb net> Cc: David Farber <dave () farber net> Subject: Re: [IP] Re: About the Dark Side Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen <ole () cisco com> Comments in line. On Mon, 1 Oct 2007, Andrew Burnette wrote:
Ole, I agree with your statements.Sorry if I replied to your particular response and gave the impression that Idisagreed with your statements.I simply find the fact that AT&T is behaving as expected, and apple as a hardware lock-in vendor behaves exactly as expected is a surprise to anyone. Neither have altered their behavior in any way, shape or form for several decades. (disclaimer: I was network architect for AS7018 back in the 1990's)
No arguments about AT&T, but I am not sure I agree about Apple. Yes, Apple certainly controls both the hardware and software of their devices, but this is as far as I know the FIRST time Apple has actually decided to meddle with the relationship between the customer and his/her SERVICE provider. Take the iPod as an example. The iPod is sold everywhere in the world. The iPod does NOT require the use of the iTunes music store, you can stick any of your CDs or any MP3 onto an iPod and Apple does not care. Apple similarly does not care how (or even if) you connect to the Internet although their registration screen for new devices kind of assumes that you do have a connection of some kind. (But you can say "no" and that's that). But with the iPhone Apple has, as far as I know, for the FIRST time in history, released an actual hardware device in one and only one country and basically made it impossible for users to buy that device if they happen to live in some other part of the world. Slowly, more regions are being added (UK, Germany), through more "exclusive deals", but this really goes against the Apple model of providing ONE (albeit localized) experience. Nor does it scale well. If Apple REALLY wants to sell iPhones, they will, well, have to SELL them and let users do whatever the hell they want with them. One can only hope that the greedy bastards realize this...
I for one, believe that Microsoft would have a serious competitor in the desktop space had apple chosen to license rather than litigate. I *love* their OS, but refuse to pay 5x for mediocre hardware one can purchase for linux, *bsd, and windows. Ok, nice looking package, but in my office, it sits under the desk in a Lian Li case, which is far superior to anything applesells today or yesterday, again, for a fraction of the price.
I am not sure I agree that Apple hardware is "mediocre" and I have owned more Apple hardware than most people, but that's all a matter of personal experience. If Apple had chosen to licence the OS, they would most likely have been OUT of the hardware business by now, and I really do not think that would be a good thing. Apple is still more than capable of true innovation, witness the Apple TV, or the iPhone for that matter. Ole ------------------------------------------- Archives: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: http://v2.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
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