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Re: Several AT&T Stores Forced Customers to Buy Accessories With iPhone - Gizmodo
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 08:02:15 -0400
Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com> Date: July 1, 2007 12:23:47 AM EDT To: "'Lauren Weinstein'" <lauren () vortex com>, dave () farber net Cc: bob37-2 () bobf frankston comSubject: RE: [IP] Re: Several AT&T Stores Forced Customers to Buy Accessories With iPhone - Gizmodo
Sorry if I wasn't clear -- I thought the implication was obvious but I keep forgetting about the lack of affect in email. But what good is it being a
Telco if you can't extract some money from those forced to pass by your trollbooths. The real challenge is getting people to see the very simple concept that networking is just something we do (as I cite in http://www.frankston.com/?name=FSM) and mustn't be forced to buy. I hope that Jobs can play enemy of my enemy and take back some control but then that may be a fantasy brought on by desperation. -----Original Message----- From: Lauren Weinstein [mailto:lauren () vortex com] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 00:07 To: dave () farber net Cc: lauren () vortex com; bob37-2 () bobf frankston com Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Several AT&T Stores Forced Customers to Buy Accessories With iPhone - Gizmodo Dave, Supposedly there is no (repeat, *no*!) subsidization of iPhone cost by The New AT&T (aka "The Old Cingular"), unlike most of their other phones. So why does AT&T still force iPhone users into a two year contract? Simple. Because they can. By the way, it's reported that if you fail the credit check you may be offered month-to-month prepay iPhone service ... As Gomer Pyle used to say, "Surprise, surprise, surprise!" --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () vortex com or lauren () pfir org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, IOIC - International Open Internet Coalition - http://www.ioic.net Founder, CIFIP - California Initiative For Internet Privacy - http://www.cifip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
--Apple-Mail-4-943871677 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <bob37-2 () bobf frankston com> Date: June 30, 2007 11:45:26 PM EDT To: dave () farber net, ip () v2 listbox com Subject: RE: [IP] Several AT&T Stores Forced Customers to Buy=20=20 Accessories With iPhone - Gizmodo Given that the rational for a two-year agreement is to cover the
cost=20=20
of subsidizing the purchase of the phone =96 is $600 really
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the same kind of discount that prices a MotoQ at $100? Or often a=20=20Razr at $0? Or has the just-so story about subsidizing the phone
done=20=20
its job and we now just accept it as a normal part of paying for the=20=20 ability to communicate? Best to think of it as an $775 phone with a=20=20refund if you manage to last out two years at $*=92s per month. Of course they also have the chutzpah to charge for the cost of=20=20 complying with telecom laws =96 why not break out the cost of
complying=20=
=20 with other laws? From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 23:25 To: ip () v2 listbox com Subject: [IP] Several AT&T Stores Forced Customers to Buy
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