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WORTH READING more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:10:28 -0500



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From: "William S. Duncanson" <caesar () starkreality com>
Date: January 12, 2007 7:06:30 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

My guess is that the subsidy to get the price down to $599 is pretty large. Remember that all the prices we've seen are the 2-year-contract subsidized prices. Cingular probably demanded an exclusive deal in return for a big
enough subsidy to make the iPhone (I really hope Cisco wins) appear even
remotely attractive price-wise.

I would guess, judging by the subsidies other phones get, that the
unsubsidized price of the iPhone is probably well north of the $1000 range.
For a phone that is, for all practical purposes, only innovative in it's
interface.

A brief list of the problems I have with it:
Price - $600 WITH contract?!? Oh, and don't forget that you can't just buy phone service, you have to get a data plan too. Figure a $50 voice plan, plus the $20 data plan, over 24 months, and the phone winds up costing you
almost $2500.
Technology - EDGE? Hello? There's this thing called 3G, and parts of the world are already pushing to 4G! 802.11 is nice, but notice that there's no
VOIP support...
Carrier Lock (Apple/Cingular are already calling the people who will unlock
their phones "bad guys."  Even though the LoC appears to disagree, with
their recent DMCA exemption for unlocking cell phones..) Want to use your phone in Europe or Asia? Tough. Cingular states quite clearly one their
support pages that they will not unlock a phone.  To "protect customer
security" of course.
No 3rd party apps (This is huge. There's a huge market for 3rd party apps for Palm, Windows Mobile, and Symbian devices, that allow you to increase your phone's functionality virtually infinitely. Apple is having none of
this, claiming they "have to protect the network from the phone.")

Apple had the chance to knock some sense into the cell phone companies by
providing an unlocked, uncrippled, open platform with cutting edge
technologies. Instead, they crawled into bed with Cingular, and delivered a
device that is overpriced, intentionally crippled, and technologically
inferior to products already on the market.  Sure, it's got a pretty
interface, and the orientation sensor/touch screen thingy are nice, but
they're nothing more than eye candy.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 15:33
To: ip () v2 listbox com
Subject: re: [IP] more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh
Tribune-Review



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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne () warpspeed com>
Date: January 12, 2007 4:00:52 PM EST
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <dewayne-net () warpspeed com>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] re: [IP] more on All hail the new iPhone - Pittsburgh
Tribune-Review
Reply-To: dewayne () warpspeed com

[Note:  This comment comes from reader Thomas Leavitt.  DLH]

From: Thomas Leavitt <thomas () thomasleavitt org>
Date: January 11, 2007 9:40:44 PM PST
To: dewayne () warpspeed com
Subject: Re: [Dewayne-Net] [IP] more on   All hail the new iPhone -
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

I'm utterly baffled as to why Steve Jobs would tie the success of the launch
of this product to a single vendor... unless follow on phones might be
released in editions exclusive to other providers, or other versions of the
product might be available on multiple platforms. In fact, if it is his
attention to capture 1% of the WORLD cellphone market, that seems almost
mandatory...



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