Re: Researchers explore scrapping Internet - Yahoo! News

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () nokia com>
Date: April 14, 2007 8:16:14 PM EDT
To: simon () higgs com
Cc: David Farber <dave () farber net>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () nokia com>
Subject: Re: [IP] Re: Researchers explore scrapping Internet - Yahoo!  
News
Reply-To: bob.hinden () nokia com

Simon,

On Apr 15, 2007, at 7:44 AM, ext Simon Higgs wrote:

> Wonderful. Another telcom executive wanting to impose a closed  
> proprietary business model on us.

Sorry, are you referring to me?  Where did I say that?

> So what is wrong with the business model of wi-fi VOIP handsets?

Nothing.  In fact see the Nokia E61, E61i, E65, etc.  All with WiFi  
and built in SIP VoIP capability.  Or the Nokia N800 with WiFi and no  
cellular.  I only wish we could sell these devices in the US.  The  
operators are too worried about their current business models.

My point in the posting to IP was that the current buisness models  
(ISP, Operator, router/switch vendor, device vendor, etc.) lock us  
into the current internet structure.  If we something that is  
different we can't assume that the current business models are  
right.  I was not arguing for proprietary closed systems.

Bob

p.s. This is the first time I have been called a "telcom executive".   
Do a little research on me and you will see why I find that pretty  
amusing.





> David Farber wrote:
> > Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () nokia com>
> > Date: April 14, 2007 12:49:23 AM EDT
> > To: David Farber <dave () farber net>
> > Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden () nokia com>
> > Subject: Researchers explore scrapping Internet - Yahoo! News
> > Reply-To: bob.hinden () nokia com
> > For IP if you like.
> > I like this this "clean slate" approach.  However, if there is to  
> > be a new Internet it has to be developed without the constraints  
> > of the current business models.   Otherwise we just get small  
> > incremental changes.  The current Internet was not designed around  
> > the business models of the 1980's.   It created it's own business  
> > models, but the currents business models lock us into the current  
> > Internet.
> > Bob
> > ------------------
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Simon Higgs



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