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more on Subpoena for 1 million random web searches
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 17:24:25 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Dana Blankenhorn <dana () a-clue com> Date: January 20, 2006 3:18:37 PM EST To: dave () farber net Subject: Re: [IP] Subpoena for 1 million random web searchesA guy who wrote a book on Google was on CNBC today (I want to say David Vise http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/055380457X/qid=1137788170/ sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-4841783-9926447? s=books&v=glance&n=283155) and said that the subpoena doesn't really want Personally Identifiable Information, just numbers to substantiate a point in an ongoing court case.
He also claims there's a guy named Mark Cutts at Google who is known as the "porn cookie guy." He gives away his wife's home-baked cookies to folks there who can help him identify porn sites the engine can de- list.
Of course the same character claimed the USA Patriot Act covers this when no one at the time had any idea it covered porn and ordinary crime. Maybe he was right on that, I don't know.
Dana Blankenhorn dana () voic us Editor: voic.us http://www.voic.us ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net> To: <ip () v2 listbox com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: [IP] Subpoena for 1 million random web searches
Begin forwarded message: From: Sean Donelan <sean () DONELAN COM> Date: January 19, 2006 2:54:04 PM EST To: CYBERIA-L () LISTSERV AOL COM Subject: [CYBERIA] Subpoena for 1 million random web searchesReply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA- L () LISTSERV AOL COM>Is this the very definition of fishing for evidence. How do wiretap laws apply when you don't even know who's data you are subpoening? How does the government intend to notify the individuals their data was obtained by the government? If they did discover illegal activity, can they use therandomly collected data as evidence? What is a reasonable expectation of privacy when Google used to publically display the contents of some in-progress searches on the wall of their corporate headquarters?Could the government just put an agent in Google's lobby and take notesof what appeared on the Google search wall under a form of "in plain sight" rule? http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/13657303.htm In court papers filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Justice Department lawyers revealed that Google has refused to comply with asubpoena issued last year for the records, which include a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from anyone-week period. ********************************************************************** For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request () listserv aol com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as dana () a-clue com To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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