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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:54:09 -0500



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From: David Mercer <radix42 () gmail com>
Date: January 13, 2006 12:08:40 PM EST
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] Cry wolf, get reaction (was Create an e-annoyance, go to jail)

On 1/10/06, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:
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From: Seth Finkelstein <sethf () sethf com>
Date: January 10, 2006 11:56:50 AM EST
To: David Farber <dave () farber net>, ip () v2 listbox com
Cc: "Lin, Herb" <HLin () nas edu>, dpreed () reed com, ghicks () well com,
jwarren () well com
Subject: Cry wolf, get reaction (was Create an e-annoyance, go to jail)

[ http://volokh.com/posts/1136873535.shtml ]

[Orin Kerr, January 10, 2006 at 1:12am]
A Skeptical Look at "Create an E-annoyance, Go to Jail":

Declan McCullagh has penned a column that is custom-designed to race
around the blogosphere. It begins:

**snip long legal explaination**

   Now I suppose you can criticize Congress for being lazy. They
   haven't rewritten the old 1934 statute in light of the modern First
   Amendment, and that has resulted in a criminal statute that looks
   much broader than it actually is. The new law expands the
   preexisting law by amending the definition of "telecommunications
   device," which maintains the same gap between the law on the books
   and the law in practice. The formulation is a bit awkward. But the
   key point for our purposes is that the law is not the "ridiculous"
   provision Declan imagines. It looks funny if you don't know the
   relevant caselaw, but in practice it simply takes the telephone
   harassment statute we've had for decades and applies it to the
   Internet.

No, this is all about Congress making whatever laws they want, totally
without regard for the Constitution, and seeing what sticks.  And of
course the legal and political establishment making it nearly
impossible for the man on the street to ever figure out the meaning of
the law without, at the very least, a legal degree.

And even then one almost has to be a specialist in the area under
question, and read tons and tons of caselaw going back decades.
"Plain meaning" has completely flown out the window, lo these many
decades.  The words on the page never seem to mean what the text would
lead one to believe, at least not those with merely a grasp of the
english language, even at the college level.

Great way to maintain unelected power elites, isn't it?

For IP of course, if you wish.

-David Mercer
Tucson, AZ


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