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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:03:21 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Brad Templeton <btm () templetons com> Date: February 27, 2006 2:35:08 PM EST To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> Cc: ip () v2 listbox comSubject: Re: [IP] mo Why's a Retired Army Lieutenant Colonel on the"No-Fly" List?]
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 06:33:40AM -0500, Dave Farber wrote:
a setof criteria describing a sample set to predictions of future set membership, is going to have false positives and false negatives. Any methodology that had zero false positives and false negatives would be so limited as to beuseless. To put this in non-scientific terms, the only way to 100% avoid falseidentifications is to have the system so limited as to be useless, likesaying"suspect someone only if they're carrying fuse wire and muttering 'allah akbhar' under their breath." On the other hand, the only way to 100% avoid
Justice systems in free nations are based on a concept in contradictionof this logic. They follow the regime that "it is better that 100 murderers
go free than to punish an innocent person."Does that mean they never convict innocents and have zero false positives?
No. But it does mean that if a false positive is discovered in the system, it tries like hell to make sure it will never happen again. Ernesto Miranda, whose name you surely know, confessed within two hours of arrest to kidnapping and raping an 18 year old Phoenix woman. Hehad not been made aware of his rights to remain silent. He was convicted.
As a result, now any confession from a person who has not been informed of their rights is inadmissible in court. Guilty, confessed criminalsgo free. Miranda was convicted without his confession, and then, in the
ultimate irony, Miranda was stabbed to death in a bar fight a few yearsafter he got out of prison. The suspect was read his rights, and refused
to talk to police. He was released. In our system of justice, the officers are told to bend over backwards to avoid false positives. When they are found, it bends over backwards to stop them again. (Well, most of the time -- it is slow sometimes to consider new evidence after many appeals.) And that's with actual suspects, in some cases confessed killers. The transportation security problems are with non-suspects, simply trying to travel. ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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