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more on "if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it]
From: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:52:08 -0500
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [IP] more on "if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 15:38:23 -0500 From: Howard C. Berkowitz <hcb () gettcomm com> To: Dave Farber <dave () farber net> References: <43F8D230.1090000 () farber net> [for the list] I don't consider surveillance cameras in public places necesarily to be inappropriate, any more than cameras used for traffic monitoring and accident detection are absolute intrusions on highways. Even in public places, however, the decision to put monitoring systems in place should be openly discussed, approved at least by elected officials, and there needs to be continuing oversight to avoid abuses. As far as the "well, if you have nothing to hide..." argument for greater intrusion, I share an experience, an anecdote, that I have really used to get law enforcement people to rethink that cliche. I had a police officer knock on my door, after a juvenile fight a few houses down, and ask if he could "come in and look around." "No." "It's just routine." "It's not routine for me, and since it's my house and you don't have a warrant, my definition of routine applies." "What, do you have something to hide?" "Help me understand that concept, Detective. Standing on my porch, please drop your trousers and, if any, undershorts." "WHAAAAAT?" "Well, if you have nothing to hide..." ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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