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more on Quake cuts off much of Asia Internet
From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:30:28 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh () hserus net> Date: December 28, 2006 11:01:59 AM EST To: dave () farber net Cc: Brett Glass <brett () lariat net> Subject: Re: [IP] Quake cuts off much of Asia Internet I saw what you're seeing - in spades. We run a large enough network I guess (~ 40 million users around the world) and yes, we're based in Hong Kong, so we ran into some of those slowdowns you mentioned .. and we do like to think we're antispam. Sure, if you run a mailserver that's basically "friends and family on an adsl line" - or even a tiny ISP in Podunk [oh wait, Laramie .. similarly sized, that] you aren't going to see the big picture at all, much as I'd like IP'ers to see it, and not randomly generalize and pontificate. [or am I expecting too much?] Fun generalization that 95% of the asiapac email traffic you see is spam .. but then you probably don't know anybody there (e&oe traffic on lists you're subscribed to) so no particular loss for you if you go firewall off the asiapac [hint: that's not just taiwan, china and korea - it includes Australia for example, also badly affected by the slowdown, and which happens to be one of the most proactively antispam countries in the world, with an excellent antispam law] A lot of countries (governments, even .. hard as it may be for some longtime IP'ers to believe) in the asiapac do take action against spam, you know .. And last I saw, the US was still top dog when it came to originating spam, most of the spamhaus top 200 are in the USA (and several others are all over the map Russia / eastern Europe / Israel etc) - while China's actually gone and pulled itself out of a position that was firmly on top of the spamhaus spam sources list (they're 3rd or 4th now I believe) This is not to play down the extent the problem there - it just serves to put things in a certain amount of perspective that IP often tends to lack, thanks to stuff like "95% of email from the asiapac is spam" Get a real network, Brett .. you'll get some real stats that way. Or google around some, read the news a bit. srs (http://www.apcauce.org) David Farber wrote:
Dave: IPers might be interested in knowing that, as a result of this slowdown, we have already seen a noticeable decrease in the amount of spam we've received -- much of which originates in Taiwan, China, and South Korea. (The flow of spam from South America, Poland, Germany, Italy, and American "zombie" machines -- the latter mostly on cable modems and Verizon DSL or FIOS -- has, alas, continued unabated. But the impact is still significant.) Because more than 95% of the traffic we receive from the Asia-Pacificregion is spam, it occurs to me that if these countries made an effort tolimit the amount of spam they generated, it might ameliorate or even eliminate the slowdown while the fiber optic cables were repaired. --Brett Glass, LARIAT.NET
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