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more on A MUST MUST read on the real world of disaster prep


From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 08:26:32 -0400



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From: rod van meter <rdviii () gmail com>
Date: September 7, 2005 7:57:47 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net, beberg () mithral com
Subject: Re: [IP] more on A MUST MUST read on the real world of disaster prep




On 9/8/05, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:

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From: Adam L Beberg <beberg () mithral com>
Date: September 7, 2005 5:52:15 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Cc: greenman.k () inkworkswell com
Subject: Re: [IP] A MUST MUST read on the real world of disaster prep


David Farber wrote on 9/7/2005 12:48 PM:




The correct question is do we have the will to tell people they can
live anywhere they want, but if that place is below sea level, or on
a beach in a hurricane zone, or right on top of a fault line, or in a
forest that burns down every 10 years, they cannot have insurance,
must buy houses with real cash not credit, and will not be bailed out
by the taxpayer for living somewhere in Mother Nature's "I warned
you!" zones.

And that would be where, exactly?

Let's see... not California...not near the New Madrid fault...not New Orleans (or Houston, Alabama, Florida, or Mississippi)...not, based on an earlier IP message, Pennsylvania...not in Tornado Alley...not in the south of France, where heat waves kill tens of thousands...not Hawaii (hurricanes AND volcanoes!)...not Seattle (Mt. St. Helens, you know)...nowhere where severe winter storms threaten large populations...AFAICT, this leaves, roughly, Columbus, Ohio. It'll be a tight fit for all of us.

In my hometown (Williamson, WV), flooding is the big threat. After the 1977 disaster, some govt agency (HUD?) helped with rebuilding -- but on the condition that you either move your house behind the big new floodwall the Army Corp of Engineers erected for parts of town, or raise your house above the 100 year flood plain, based on various disaster statistics. There are now a number of awkward houses, brick above a ten-foot-high cinder block "basement", with the porch up in the air, and stairs that are difficult for the elderly to navigate. Move up the hollers instead, you say? My sister, in another part of the state, lived not beside but within walking distance of a small creek, well away from the river, and wasn't required by her lender to have flood insurance. The creek unexpectedly flooded, putting four feet of water in her house in a matter of hours.

Risk is a gradient, not a step function. New Orleans (and Los Angeles, and Williamson) are where they are for a variety of reasons, some good, some bad, many historical but random. Relocating a small community is disruptive and heart-wrenching; moving a big city is impractical, at best. Moreover, it will alter but not eliminate the risks. Should we perform a risk evaluation when making build decisions? Yes. But saying we should effectively ban building in an area because it crosses some arbitrary risk threshold (which is, after all, only probabilistic, anyway) is simplistic and not very helpful.

--Rod



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