[I hope so djf] more on GoogleOffice?

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

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From: Tom Fairlie <tfairlie () frontiernet net>
Date: October 5, 2005 12:58:23 AM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] more on GoogleOffice?


There doesn't need to be a tech conspiracy in play here.
Microsoft has been not-so-secretly investing billions in
R&D for years to create a business software/application
development environment that is second to none. When
Vista is released, along with newer versions of Office,
Visual Studio, SQL Server, and their APIs/GUI, everyone
will see how easy it is (again) to use Microsoft tools to
be productive in the business world.

This is not to say, of course, that you can't use other
tools or systems, or that these alternatives are inferior.
On the contrary, many applications are individually superior--
many for free--to what Microsoft will sell you. However,
the vast majority of businesses don't care about open
source or the elegance of Linux. They care about making
things happen now, making things work, and making
things work well. The next wave of Microsoft tools will
give them all of this in spades and will, taken as a whole,
be an order of magnitude greater than other commercial
offerings.

In other words, if you were thinking of competing with
Microsoft, you had better start investing billions right now
or start learning judo.

Tom Fairlie

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Farber" <dave () farber net>
To: "Ip Ip" <ip () v2 listbox com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: [IP] more on GoogleOffice?




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From: Kevin Murphy <kmurphy () datamonitor com>
Date: October 4, 2005 5:39:39 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: RE: [IP] more on GoogleOffice?


If anything, this press conference was about misdirection. The plan
seemed to be to further fan the flames of speculation.

When McNealy said, "You could speculate all day long about all the
different places and ways we could go and work together, and they're
all legitimate speculation", I'm sure many people heard "Go speculate
some more, knock a couple more points off of MSFT's share price".

Sometimes I wonder if Google even has a master plan, or whether it is
just pimping an overly speculative media and blogosphere for its
strategy ideas. We already seem to be convinced Google is a whisker
from blowing away both the telecommunications establishment and
Microsoft's OS monopoly.





-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:18 PM
To: Ip Ip
Subject: [IP] more on GoogleOffice?




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From: Joab Jackson <jjackson () postnewsweektech com>
Date: October 4, 2005 3:11:23 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net, Ip Ip <ip () v2 listbox com>
Subject: RE: [IP] GoogleOffice?




> Google and Sun Microsystems announced a partnership on Tuesday that
> will offer Sun's word processing and spreadsheet software online
> through Google's websites and toolbars,

They said nothing of the sort. They announced that the Java Runtime
Environment would be bundled with the Google Toolbar (but the toolbar
would not be bundled with JRE, at least not initially, a good idea given
that that JRE is like 20 mbytes--quite a download). No specific
announcements were made about OpenOffice, other than a vague mention
that Google would help in developing.

Here is the release.

http://www.sun.com/2005-1004/feature/index.html

Joab

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave () farber net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:55 PM
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Subject: [IP] GoogleOffice?




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From: Ken Deifik <kenneth.d () adelphia net>
Date: October 4, 2005 2:28:27 PM EDT
To: dave () farber net
Subject: Re: [IP] GoogleOffice?


Google and Sun Microsystems announced a partnership on Tuesday that
will offer Sun's word processing and spreadsheet software online
through Google's websites and toolbars, creating a formidable rival
to Microsoft's Office software package.

The deal will allow users to access Sun's Openoffice files and work
on projects from any personal computer, the companies said in a
statement on Tuesday.

Both companies declined earlier in the day to give details of the
deal in advance of their formal announcement. However, shares in Sun
rose 8 per cent to $4.54 in afternoon trading.

Shares in Microsoft fell ahead of the announcement, on fears the
partnership would create a serious challenge to the software
company's dominance.

Copyright 2005 Financial Times

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.asp?
feed=FT&Date=20051004&ID=5165603

At 05:54 AM 10/4/2005, you wrote:





> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joehall () gmail com>
> Date: October 4, 2005 2:15:27 AM EDT
> To: IS296A-2 Fall 2005 <osdddi () sims berkeley edu>
> Cc: Dave Farber <dave () farber net>, noise () sims berkeley edu
> Subject: GoogleOffice?
> Reply-To: joehall () pobox com
>
>
> Hm, sounds tempting...  -Joe
>
> ---
>
> <http://www.searchenginejournal.com/index.php?p=2282>
>
> Google and Sun Microsystems Planning Major Announcement :
> GoogleOffice?
>
> Sun Microsystems and Google are planning a major news conference on
> Tuesday, October 4th (today) at 10:30 a.m. PT/1:30 p.m. ET. The
> conference will be held by Scott McNealy, Sun Microsystems Chairman
> and CEO and Eric Schmidt, Google Chairman of the Executive Committee
> and CEO. Sun Microsystems announced that McNealy and Schmidt will be
> discussing a new collaborative effort between the two companies. Yes,
> that sound you just heard was Microsoft cringing at the thought of
> Google and Sun working together.
>
> Various analysts and geek gossipers are predicting that the
> partnership will be centered around Sun's OpenOffice, an open source
> office suite with alternative versions of Excel, Word, Powerpoint and
> other "MicrosoftOffice-esque" type offerings and StarOffice, a Sun
> project related to OpenOffice. To further escalate the rumors, Joerg
> Heilig, the former Director of Engineering for StarOffice, is now a
> Google employee.
>
> (more)
>
> --
> Joseph Lorenzo Hall
> UC Berkeley, SIMS PhD Student
> <http://josephhall.org/>
> blog: <http://josephhall.org/nqb2/>
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