more on SBC to raise DSL pricing 25-43% (unless you bundle)

[David Farber <dave () farber net>]

Begin forwarded message:

From: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
Date: October 31, 2005 11:35:36 AM EST
To: 'Richard Wiggins' <richard.wiggins () gmail com>, 'David Farber'  
<dave () farber net>
Cc: "David P. Reed" <dpreed () reed com>
Subject: RE: [IP] more on SBC to raise DSL pricing 25-43% (unless you  
bundle)


I basically get such an IPtone on my cable connections. I just plug  
in and
that's that. Used to matter what IP address I used. My router (Dual WAN
Xincom) normalizes DSL to give me an IPTone.

To a large extent the requirement to run special software is borne of a
combination of cluelessness on the part of the carriers and an  
attempt to
slip some marketware into your computer.

Ultimately the idea they are offering services leads them to  
misinterpret
end-to-end as womb-to-tomb and view customers who want to take
responsibility for their own computing as cheating.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wiggins [mailto:richard.wiggins () gmail com]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:12
To: David Farber
Cc: Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com
Subject: Re: [IP] more on SBC to raise DSL pricing 25-43% (unless you
bundle)

To my knowledge, NO mainstream residential broadband provider gives
you the straight "IP dialtone" that many consider ideal.

The SBC/Yahoo DSL installation process is unnecessarily long and
laborious and it mucks with your browser to rebrand it in their name
-- much more invasive than adding a toolbar.

In general it's been my impression that DSL providers are more prone
to do invasive things to your computer, but last week I had to do an
emergency installation of Comcast cable modem service (after the lawn
sprinkler installers cut our phone lines) and they required you to run
proprietary stuff to enable the service.  I had to do Windows registry
edits to remove their logo from IE.

Asking right now if SBC understands things better than AT&T is
deliciously ironic, given the merger and name change in progress.  :-)

/rich

On 10/31/05, David Farber <dave () farber net> wrote:

> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501 () bobf frankston com>
> Date: October 30, 2005 10:09:20 PM EST
> To: dave () farber net, 'Ip Ip' <ip () v2 listbox com>
> Cc: 'Frank Muto' <info () ISPNETWORKS ORG>
> Subject: RE: [IP] SBC to raise DSL pricing 25-43% (unless you bundle)


> What does it mean to bundle Yahoo anyway -- I get their toolbar  
> installed
> as a "favor"? What other implications?
>
> Does SBC understand connectivity any better than ATT did?




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