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From: David Farber <dave () farber net>
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:30:30 -0500
Begin forwarded message: From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren () vortex com> Date: October 30, 2005 10:53:22 AM EST To: cindy () eff org Cc: dave () farber net, lauren () vortex com Subject: Google Print Cindy, You say... "Google isn't getting or giving free copies full of any of the works." On what do you base the first part of your statement? Google is clearly scanning complete copies of the works. They have not suggested that they will only "process" them once for their index and then delete the original full copies. They have not offered to certify that the copies won't be available -- even internally to Google -- to be read or referenced by employees for other purposes, or used for internal R&D above and beyond the index. But let's assume for the sake of the argument that you trust Google on this score. Where do we draw the lines? From a legal standpoint, how do we determine who has the rights to fully copy and keep copies of copyrighted works without permission? Is this capability conferred only on multi-billion-dollar search engine corporations? What about tiny startups? Nonprofits? What about individuals who want to have a collection of books that interest them (without paying for them), and offer public search engine snippets (with or without ads) in the process as the ostensible raison d'etre? I definitely agree that the orphan works problem is a big one. I believe that is where efforts should be concentrated. I don't claim to have a clear answer for this that would protect everybody's rights to a level I'd be comfortable with. But for works that are obviously not orphaned, where the rights holders are relatively easy to find, I think that the situation is different and permission should have been required in advance. I'm concerned that some people seem to have taken their hatred of RIAA and MPAA Digital Rights Management overreaching and inappropriately transposed similar feelings into this situation. It's a real can of worms. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein lauren () pfir org or lauren () vortex com or lauren () eepi org Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 http://www.pfir.org/lauren Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, EEPI - Electronic Entertainment Policy Initiative - http://www.eepi.org Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as lists-ip () insecure org To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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